Welding carts & compressed gases

[kevin.decelles]

Still exchanging them like that you never have to get your bottles tested that falls on them.

I’ve been dealing with oxypro off Barlow ….. I’m neutral. I own all my cylinders and when u exchanged I got the old , hmmmm, we’ll, geeez, these are 11 year old bottles….. I said but I always exchange here and ended up having to pair the certification fee etc. i can never get a good feeling with these guys…. I go there because it is convienient.


I don’t mind Kms but the last refill I had they didn’t cool the cylinder imho and the fill was about 80%. I did lease from praxaor for a few years but I don’t weld enough to justify it.

I guess I am generally untrustful of all these guys in Calgary …. I never come away feeling like the customer

 

[Gearhead88]

I’ve been dealing with oxypro off Barlow ….. I’m neutral. I own all my cylinders and when u exchanged I got the old , hmmmm, we’ll, geeez, these are 11 year old bottles….. I said but I always exchange here and ended up having to pair the certification fee etc. i can never get a good feeling with these guys…. I go there because it is convienient.


I don’t mind Kms but the last refill I had they didn’t cool the cylinder imho and the fill was about 80%. I did lease from praxaor for a few years but I don’t weld enough to justify it.

I guess I am generally untrustful of all these guys in Calgary …. I never come away feeling like the customer

Something that never sits well with me is , fees added on , lots of companies do it whether they are providing a service or selling a product , often it's just a fee for the sake of milking us for every last possible cent .

Convenience fee
Admin fee
Added value fee
Paper billing fee
Cylinder tracking fee
Service charge
Green fee
and there are many , many more cleverly concieved ways to separate the consumer from his money.

 

[Dan Dubeau]

Bell used to have a $2 touch tone fee for land lines, and I can remember my wife arguing with the guy on the phone trying to get it removed because we had a rotary, and didn't need it lol. He was saying "that's impossible, those don't work anymore" and she was replying "I'm talking to you right now from a rotary dial phone" lol. Still makes me laugh. We still have the phone, but dropped land line service shortly after that call. Ad on fees drive me nuts.

 

[Gearhead88]

To follow up on my lease a bottle discussion ..............

I went to Air Liquide today.
I turned in an empty Mig gas cylinder , told them I no longer want a lease.
Because I wanted to buy two cylinders I got a small break on the price ( I think)
I now own a Mig gas cylinder and an Argon cylinder , no more annual lease payments., no surprise here , there were "fee's" , just enough to make the deal , a bit raw.

The down side is , you are limited on the size of the cylinder you may own , I would have liked to upsize the cylinders I had so re-fill intervals are longer , it wasn't an option.
The Mig gas cylinder I brought home is the same size as what I had , the Argon cylinder is the same size too. The cubic volume is close to the same but the pressure is lower (confused ? ).
It will take a few years to see a savings due to what they charge to own a cylinder , in the long term , it makes more sense to own as has been pointed out by a few participants in this conversation.
It's $90 to fill these cylinders and is done as an exchange , so me having to pick up the tab to re-cert the cylinders is not gonna happen , they take care of it.

Overall my wallet is lighter but I'm happy I did it , very soon I can light up my new to me Tig machine .

I should have done this a long time ago

On Monday , I'm turning in my leased Oxy/ Acetylene cylinders , the lease is up , I've had them for a long time but I very rarely use them and there are other methods for heating or cutting .

I will be selling my cutting/ welding torches , regulators (Uniweld) , hoses and cart that I bought from Air Liquide .

 

[Tom O]

Glad it worked out for you it’s been a year since I had my bottles filled but sounds like the same price. I‘ve always been treated good there mind you we have known Andrew since he use to chum with Adrian for a number of years. And if you get stuck I have Oxy/ acc you can use.

 

[ShawnR]

This week, I happened to fill two different bottles. The Argon is the 80 cuft bottle that I own, the grandfather thing I mentioned earlier. Cannot buy them anymore but praxair honours them. It cost $130 after all fees and taxes. I then filled my Mig gas 40 cuft bottle (by fill, I mean exchange of course) and it cost $90.

 

[6.5 Fan]

I just found a bill for oxy tank it was $65 with tax for an exchange tank i own. These little suckers don't last very long if your cutting steel. This was Air Liquide.

 

[PeterT]

How are tanks identified as to when they need to be re-certified, like a stamp or engraving or something? Is this what the gas filler-uppers confirm? If compliant, ok fill - if not, no fill? Or is there more to it than that?

 

[ShawnR]

Soooooo...back to welding carts....

Have the cable hooks done. Moving onto the Filler rack next. I will be going with the tank straps like @David_R8

 

[boilerhouse]

How are tanks identified as to when they need to be re-certified, like a stamp or engraving or something? Is this what the gas filler-uppers confirm? If compliant, ok fill - if not, no fill? Or is there more to it than that?

I bought my tanks 20 years ago, from BOC gas now Linde, new and filled, with tax were $330. Last time I exchanged them around 2018, acetylene with all charges was $110, and oxygen was $60. Of course, I don't own the tank per say, I own a lifetime right to an exchange.
I checked my tanks, and there are dates stamped into the cylinders, so I imagine whoever fills these things would be required to send any 'out of date' cylinders off for an inspection and likely hydrostatic testing.
I also checked 20 years worth of receipts to see the volume of the cylinders, and all that was marked was oxygen C and acetylene WB. OK, no problem, I googled that info- and came up with nothing. So the bottom line is, the Gas companies love people like me; I don't know what I have, I don't know what I am getting, but I am happy to pay for it.

 

[ShawnR]

Completed the tanks strap mounting and the rod storage is almost done. I need to space the top rack out before securing it. To make the rod storage shelves, I cut a groove in a 4" wide piece, then bent it over to 90. Gave me the exact dimension angle I wanted while remaining kinda straight... Also got to weld up the outside corner with the TIG so good practice for me.

 

[Susquatch]

Soooooo...back to welding carts....

Are you under the silly mistaken impression that this thread is about welding carts?

Oh ya, and I guess I should add..... That's one kick ass cart! I love it!

 

[ShawnR]

Are you under the silly mistaken impression that this thread is about welding carts?

Oh ya, and I guess I should add..... That's one kick ass cart! I love it!

lol...yea, a bit of a diversion but all good info.

Thanks!

 

[Gearhead88]

More progress on my cart build .

 

[Gearhead88]

Ready to use

 

[Dabbler]

very nice work!

 

[Tom O]

Nice

 

[Chicken lights]

View attachment 21598View attachment 21599Ready to use

Nice snap on box! That’s not a new girl

 

[Gearhead88]

Nice snap on box! That’s not a new girl

I bought it new in 1991

 

[Gearhead88]

Unknown to me until today ....... the Tig torch that was included with this machine is not compatible .

What I need is a dinse 35-70 cable that has a flow through gas feature , the machine originally had a cable like this without a separate gas hose , there is a separate gas hose with the torch I got .

Damn !! more spending !

A search of Miller & Air Liquide websites came up blank , this machine is probably close to 20 years old.

I did find one that will work , on ebay , and on Amazon.



The connection is not threaded , it's a insert & twist , sealed with an O ring