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Ammco 6" Metal shaper
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Downwindtracker2
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My 6" shop-built is made of steel. The clapper box is as well. On the factory machines, the pin is tapered and removable. In my reading, they made a big deal about it. I haven't checked mine.
Yes it is a tapered No.5 taper reamer. I have up to #4 reamers but no #5 and had to order a #5.
TonyK.
Grimsby Ontario Canada.
140mower
Don
I can't add pictures to a pm....
Pretty sure that a flat rate box will be cheapest, at which point I am thinking that I will cut off 4.5" so you have room to screw up once.
Then when you nail it the first time you can send the other half to susq if his is in need.
of course, if you need the second piece he'll have to make his own deal with the devil. 
When are we going to see some pictures of this machine? You have primed the pump so to speak, let's see some water, I mean ideas flowing.
All the best.
TonyK.
Grimsby Ontario Canada
Oh, I have a few pictures courtesy of @gerritv. Just no serial number stuff cuz I was too excited/stupid to take my own!
140mower
Don
That lineshaft looks pretty damned sexy..... Looking forward to seeing it in its new home.
Wow, looks complete. Post 1941 era, why oh why does that manual have to be on the machine blocking my view?
Now what else is that line shaft powering, small Atlas Milling Machine maybe? It is apparent that whom ever took these pictures does not under stand the word obsession. Oh where do these people come from.
Nice machine, you are very lucky.
TonyK.
Grimsby Ontario Canada.
Downwindtracker2
Super User
Ian Bradley wrote a book on shapers, " The Shaping Machine " . His machine was sold in the UK as an Acorn. I think that was the AMMCO. The book itself is expensive on Abebooks, but there are downloads kicking around. I just used my printer for Chapter #5 , Additions. Power downfeed would be nice.
Moving ahead, I started fitting the Z Axis screw. I chose a Brass Screw rather than a steel one. The hand wheel came from China. The stainless adapter plate was missing from the machine. I have always had a passion for Stainless Steel. Difficult to work with, but a dream to TIG weld. Here is how the hand crank looks in the cabinet. Okay, what were they thinking years ago, but then, well... that is so much a part of this old machine, got to love it. Over the years people do stuff to old machines. Let's face a fact here, anyone that owns a machine like this knows something about machining parts, fits and what is a good mechanical idea or is not. The tool post can rotate and the lock is required to secure the tool post on a desired plane. Then why I ask would someone place 4 nuts stacked in a column to secure the tool post rotation? My solution, turn a short section of brass cut on an angle, hollow out with an end mill to place more direct force on the tool post shaft, mark with an "F" to show orientation and move on. I feel so much better now.
TonyK.
Grimsby Ontario Canada.
TonyK.
Grimsby Ontario Canada.
gerritv
Gerrit
They hide among us.....
I believe @gerritv took the photos. I've never met Gerrit in person, but I believe on blind faith that he does totally understand the word "obsession".
I also bet that the devil in him put that book there on purpose to tempt me to want to take a closer look at the shaper in person. He knew that I have been looking for a nice little shaper for many years.
The line drive doesn't power a mill. But it does power a beautiful old lathe to the right. I'll post a photo of that later cuz I have to extract it from a zip file first.
Edit - I don't have to post the photo as I see Gerrit already did.
gerritv
Gerrit
The lathe is a Southbend, bought during WWII. The original owner is the father of the gentleman who recently passed away. The original purchaser was a projectionist in Tronto, in his spare time during WWI he was making parts for the war effort.
The ways are in excellent condition, carriage is very smooth. Original paint. Not likely to have had much use over the past 40 or more years. I think the original bill of sale is available. Lots of extras on shelves to the left, fixed and moving steadies e.g. The line shaft is driven by a 1HP old school motor
Also a Rexxon floor standing drill press, 4x6 bandsaw, radial arm saw, 12" bandsaw, Burke horizontal mill with some additions (at the time I was there last week.)
The machines need to be sold soonish.
The ways are in excellent condition, carriage is very smooth. Original paint. Not likely to have had much use over the past 40 or more years. I think the original bill of sale is available. Lots of extras on shelves to the left, fixed and moving steadies e.g. The line shaft is driven by a 1HP old school motor
Also a Rexxon floor standing drill press, 4x6 bandsaw, radial arm saw, 12" bandsaw, Burke horizontal mill with some additions (at the time I was there last week.)
The machines need to be sold soonish.
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I'll confess I really really really considered it. @gerritv is right. It's a beauty. The line belt was deliberately disconnected to keep it tight and avoid stressing the spindle. That meant you could spin it. I did that once and couldn't believe my hands ears and eyes. It's not a ball bearing, but it spun like it was on air bearings. Gorgeous little machine.
But no, I have two lathes already - one much older and one much younger. I had to close my eyes and walk away. It was not easy.
140mower
Don
Come on, at your age don't you deserve to hold collector status. That pair, connected to that lineshaft would look great in the front foyer of any home. Now that is art.....
Oh ya, it's called "Dead Art" - not happening.