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Robot Arm

LenVW

Process Machinery Designer
Premium Member
John,
You are getting to like this 3D printing a little too much.
Next thing, you will be reinforcing the structure of the parts with composites !!
Is that just a resin alteration ?
 

jcdammeyer

John
Premium Member
John,
You are getting to like this 3D printing a little too much.
Next thing, you will be reinforcing the structure of the parts with composites !!
Is that just a resin alteration ?
resin alteration?
There's a story behind the box. (Isn't there always...)
The AR3 and AR4 use slightly different sets of connectors but the designer is fond of using shielded network cables sliced and half and panel network cable connectors. I don't like that approach so I designed a similar box but with holes to match what I wanted to use. The two large ones were copied from the original.
The other issue is that the designer used to sell STP files for an extra $100 but now doesn't because of Chinese copying. He only distributes STL files which can be very complicated to to translate back to STP format. A friend of mine using Fusion360 is able to do the ones I can't with the 8 year old CAD software I have a USB key for. It does most but not really complex ones.

Here's the original STL one ready to be sliced into G-Code for the 3D printer.
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I'm using the same idea but with the aviation connectors for everything so I did my own from scratch but mucked up on the size of the two large holes.

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LenVW

Process Machinery Designer
Premium Member
resin alteration?
There's a story behind the box. (Isn't there always...)
The AR3 and AR4 use slightly different sets of connectors but the designer is fond of using shielded network cables sliced and half and panel network cable connectors. I don't like that approach so I designed a similar box but with holes to match what I wanted to use. The two large ones were copied from the original.
The other issue is that the designer used to sell STP files for an extra $100 but now doesn't because of Chinese copying. He only distributes STL files which can be very complicated to to translate back to STP format. A friend of mine using Fusion360 is able to do the ones I can't with the 8 year old CAD software I have a USB key for. It does most but not really complex ones.

Here's the original STL one ready to be sliced into G-Code for the 3D printer.
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I'm using the same idea but with the aviation connectors for everything so I did my own from scratch but mucked up on the size of the two large holes.

View attachment 39002
Designs are only limited by the imagination.
You are utilizing parts and processes from your experiences.
That is a characteristic of an open-minded developer with more ideas to produce.
Far too often creative minded industrial designers have been told that they cannot do the technical work involved with taking a process to the next level.
Designs go thru many drafts before the best final product is presented.
Looking forward to the next ‘revision’.
 

jcdammeyer

John
Premium Member
Here's my next revision and why one shouldn't really do things in the machine shop it there's even the slightest idea there might be COVID brain fog.

I found a short piece of 1/2" stock. Long enough to hold in the 1/2" 5C Collet for transfer to the Spin Indexer on the mill.
I was careful. Used my ELS for the exact metric lengths required. Came out perfect. The XL series pulley that needs a keyslot slid on with no friction and no play. I'm usually never that good.
KeyBroachGiude8mm.jpg

Then on to the mill. First I put a 7/8" rod about 16" long into the spin indexer. Used my probe to ensure it was parallel to the X axis on the table so the key slot I'd eventually carve would be straight. Perfect!

Swap in this little guy. Find the center line by probing front and back using the probe on either side icon.
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Well that operation wiped off the probe needle so fast I couldn't get to the ESTOP fast enough. No idea why. Luckily it didn't shatter the probe like I did the last time.

I used my old standby that makes electrical contact to find the center. Then positioned the touch probe again over the center line this time to establish the Z=0 position. This is where the brain fog starts to show.
Click on on the probe surface button. Perfect.
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Do a tool change to remove the probe and insert the 3mm end mill holder. Verified the length was correct in the tool table. All looked good.
Jogged a line at a time in the G-Code.
The G0 Z0.235 should have put the tool bit just above the part and then stopped so I could measure and check clearance.
BANG!
Bits of HSS embedded in the softer steel. Collet has marks (it was turning) against the 5C collet.
AC Servo on Z axis faulted out for encoder not going where motor was told to go. Possibly even the spindle faulted. By then I'd hit the ESTOP.

KeyBroachMuckedUp.jpg

I tried to clean up the area on the but it's not as pretty as it used to be.

So what went wrong?
Late tonight I finally figured it out. To make this long story short, after I had damaged my first 3 way probe I made a spindle button probe just to be able to set Z=0. That probe was much shorter. The new replacement probe arrived in June or July. I did testing and then went on and did other things.

Totally forgot to change from the short Z axis button probe to the longer (by 2" needle probe). The system thought the 3mm mill was 2" further from the part than it actually was. ie. At about 2.235" and it was trying to reach 0.235". At 150 ipm.

Once I edited the tool table and the INI file parameters for this expensive fixed length probe I went down and tried it again. This time the probing and tool length works.

I'll go through and do a full calibration again just to get the precise value but moral of the story. Don't play in the shop with COVID fog brain.
 

jcdammeyer

John
Premium Member
Well crap. The 2mm broach arrived in the mail today. Now I no longer have an excuse to not finish the broach guide. The last time I tried to make the guide I busted a 3mm end mill and knocked the tip off the probe. And since then I've had issues with setting Z height on a tool change. Here I thought I'd have another month's worth of procrastination.:(

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Mcgyver

Ultra Member
Is the AR4 entirely open source? If so, the guy is modern day hero.

Must not start another new project.
Must not start another new project.
Must not start another new project.
Must not start another new project.
Must not start another new project.
Must not start another new project.
.......
 
Is the AR4 entirely open source? If so, the guy is modern day hero.

Must not start another new project.
Must not start another new project.
Must not start another new project.
Must not start another new project.
Must not start another new project.
Must not start another new project.
.......
...... thinking about a new project are ya'. ........So many of my purchases and projects begin the same way ...;)
Don't forget, we like pictures. :p
 

jcdammeyer

John
Premium Member
Is the AR4 entirely open source? If so, the guy is modern day hero.

Must not start another new project.
Must not start another new project.
Must not start another new project.
Must not start another new project.
Must not start another new project.
Must not start another new project.
.......
Yes. Open source for the Arduino interface. I don't recall it the PC side is open source. I think it is.
 

jcdammeyer

John
Premium Member
...... thinking about a new project are ya'. ........So many of my purchases and projects begin the same way ...;)
Don't forget, we like pictures. :p
Actually already deep down this rabbit hole if you go back a few pages of this thread. The final toothed belt for one of the joints finally arrived. I now have the 3mm and 2mm broach keys for the pulleys and was working on the broach guide. A box full of motors, electronics, hardware.

Biggest thing holding me back now is to make a few patterns to cast the larger aluminum pieces. Not interested in paying $40 to $50 for a chunk of metal that I screw up when milling it. Much easier to melt it down and make it again.

What usually happens with me is something goes wrong and I go do something else for a while rather than break things due to frustration. The Z180 S100 card is now working other than having CP/M work with the MicroSD card.

This new AR4 version looks to have changed some things so I might be able to put off building mine because I need different parts. Here's hoping...
 

Janger

(John)
Administrator
Vendor
The G0 Z0.235 should have put the tool bit just above the part and then stopped so I could measure and check clearance.
BANG!
I have a rule. With a G0 Z xxx first time to the position above the part - 25% rapid feed max. I might do 25% and then 5% when it's close. The whole time my finger is on the stop button. I'm also eyeing the Z height on the screen as it goes down. I invented this rule after ramming a 1/2"+ sized drill right into the part at rapid 400ipm. Busted the drill - I'm grateful that was all that went wrong. Can you bend a mill doing that? omg.
 

Tom O

Ultra Member
Been lucky so far I’ve only snapped a probe and I always am on the lookout for a missing decimal one guy said he destroyed his, he wanted .5 but entered 5 you can almost feel his pain.
 
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