RF30 Basement Install

[YYCHM]

Spent the last two days beefing up the bench the beast will sit on.

Laid down a 3/4" sheet of plywood on top of the 3/4" thick table top planks and added mid span support legs both front and back. If I can source a drip tray to put under the machine I think I'm about ready to set the beast up.

Unfortunately this is the only space I have available, so no other choice.

If anyone has any doubts about this arrangement, please speak up.

Craig

 

[YYCHM]

How do I get this gib in place without resorting to a hammer?

That's as far as she goes without beating on it. Only goes in one way.

Craig

 

[DavidR8]

How do I get this gib in place without resorting to a hammer?

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That's as far as she goes without beating on it. Only goes in one way.

Craig

Something is not right.
Are the gib lock screw(s) backed all the way out?

Was the table difficult to move before it was disassembled?


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[YYCHM]

Something is not right.
Are the gib lock screw(s) backed all the way out?

Was the table difficult to move before it was disassembled?

The gib lock screws are removed. That gib just fell out when I cranked the table off. The only thing different about this is it's all upside down. I wanted to confirm what the realistic table travel was.

Craig

 

[DavidR8]

The gib lock screws are removed. That gib just fell out when I cranked the table off. The only thing different about this is it's all upside down. I wanted to confirm what the realistic table travel was.

Craig

I’d flip it over so the table surface is up then.


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[Tom O]

Try flipping the gib end wise.

 

[YYCHM]

I’d flip it over so the table surface is up then.

OK, I just turned it over. No difference.

 

[YYCHM]

Try flipping the gib end wise.

I tried it every which way. It appears to be tapered and only goes in one way.

 

[DavidR8]

I tried it every which way. It appears to be tapered and only goes in one way.

That is correct, it will only go in one way.
The other thing to try is to move the table so that it’s not as far engaged on the ways and see if it will go all the way in.
(Mine was difficult too but I can’t remember how I got it together...)


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[RobinHood]

Dumb question: is the saddle the correct way around? usually the gib side and the regular dovetail side are different.

 

[YYCHM]

Dumb question: is the saddle the correct way around? usually the gib side and the regular dovetail side are different.

Not a dumb question at all, with me anything is possible. It's on the right way. Table stop slot is facing the saddle side that has the gib lock screw holes. I wonder if I bent the gib taking the table off? Looks straight to me?

 

[YotaBota]

Back away from the hammer!!!!!! If it doesn't go easy then like David said, something isn't right.
Maybe another dumb question: does the gib go in from the other end of the table?

 

[YYCHM]

Back away from the hammer!!!!!! If it doesn't go easy then like David said, something isn't right.
Maybe another dumb question: does the gib go in from the other end of the table?

Only goes in one way, I've tried every possible combination. I don't know if it just needs a love tap or two or what. The last thing I need right now is to have the gib jammed in there to the point I have to back it out some how.

The hammer is put away for now LOL.

 

[Brent H]

Is there a slot on the gib that engages the adjusting screw to allow the screw to move the gib, or does the gib just get retained by the screw?

If the gib is as it should be, take it out and slide the the column piece up to the top of its travel and insert the gib at that point with some light machine oil. You may need to wiggle things a bit. It is also imperative that everything is clean- a chip or shaving in the works will mess things up.

 

[RobinHood]

Hi Craig, as @Brent H suggests above, the drawing in the manual does show that there is an slot in the gib where the adjusting screw head engages.

it is that little dot on the gib (item 21)

in your picture, I can not see that slot facing up as it should since you have the table and saddle upside down on your bench (could just be the angle of the camera though...)

I think we should be able to see the slot about where the red circle is in order for the adjusting screw head to engage.

 

[YYCHM]

Ah.... the slot in the gib, I wondered what that was for. I bet you that's the problem. I have to set the gib in the saddle and then slide the table on.

I'm OOT for a couple days, so won't get a chance to work on it again until Friday now.

Craig

 

[historicalarms]

I've had the table off mine a couple of times and no problem re-assembling it. I would remove the table again and with a strong light, check for something lodged in either of the dovetails. Small clearances there so it wouldn't take much to bind up.
As well, when you have it off, lay the gib up against the mating surface of either bed or table to check if you did actually bend it a smidge somehow, any daylight along the gib should be easy to spot.

 

[DavidR8]

These are shots of the gibs in place on my RF clone.
First is the X-axis, second the Y.

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[YotaBota]

David - Are the gibs physically close enough in size and look to get them mixed up? I'm just showing off my newbie lack of knowledge.

 

[DavidR8]

David - Are the gibs physically close enough in size and look to get them mixed up?

Good question. They are very similar (if not identical) so they could probably be mixed up.
I think what's happened is that it's either upside down at a minimum, possibly the X gib is in the Y slot as it were.
(Kinda embarrassed that I didn't notice the lack of slot...)