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First Milling Machine, Windsor ON, $2200

TorontoBuilder said:
I hate to say it, I can get a 3HP motor and VFD for 500 total.
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Depends on time frame, if you have say 3 months we are talking about max 100 for a motor and max 200 for a VFD. New, both, just over 500. This would be a drop in replacement. Heck, you can get 1ph motor and no need for a VFD.

But if you change voltage / phase you need to probably change some electrical stuff as well. Max 500.
 
OK, so 500-1000 to power it with 3 phase then....

VFD and 240v 3~ motor. at the lower end, at the upper end a phase converter with transformer. One is cheaper and only suited to THAT machine, the other more expensive and gives you a bit of future proofing.

You can do anything cheaper if you wait and find deals. Good, fast, cheap. you can only pick 2.
 
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Dabbler said:
I'll be in the area on the 15th. need help moving it? Want help evaluating it?
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My brother is thinking hard on pulling the trigger. We just need to find the best method to lift it off a uhaul flat bed trailer on our end... it will wheel right into the garage.

I think this will be sold before the end of the day tomorrow... so not much opportunity to wait to have your help evaluating it or moving it but you're a mensch for offering to help people

The other complication is the impeding storm that will bring freezing rain followed by heavy wet snow followed by plunging temperatures. That is less than ideal conditions for relocating a mill.
 
Dabbler said:
Rent a kneeling trailer. @RobinHood knows which chain of rentals have them. Easier to load and unload.
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I assume that this would be similar in operation to a flat bed tow truck in that the geometry is configured to allow the bed to swivel and have the end make contact with the ground in order to be able to roll right onto the bed like we usually do when we hire such tow trucks. We cant given this distance though.

I'm not familiar with how the forum works, if you embed @RobinHood in a post like this does he get informed he has been mentioned? Of will I need to send a DM to get an answer?
 
TorontoBuilder said:
Thank you sir!
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The machine is safely home. Used a lift bed trailer. We were able to drive the forklift with the mill up the deck that was lowered to the ground. The 5000 lbs forklift had to work a bit to get it in position, but it worked out. Here is the load ready for the trip home. Yeah, I know, lots of...
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@Doggggboy used one to retrieve his mill from @John Conroy in Edmonton but I can't seem to find the post.
 
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Dabbler said:
These trailers don't tilt as much as 'kneel' they do tilt slightly, but at a manageable angle. Remember "steel on steel is no deal' and you will be fine.
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I'd like to solicit some opinions here.

I can get the seller to load it directly on with a crane. But then I can't unload it.

So should I make a pallet to load the mill on, or some other device that will let me either get a pallet truck forks under or a rolling cart with locking wheels?

I'm a little worried about the center of gravity on a knee mill and the potential to tip over when rolling on pallet truck or cart. I'm also worried my existing 4 inch steel casters would not support 2400 or 2800 lbs. I wish I had machinery rollers...
 
Can you back a trailer in your shop/garage to unload? When I moved my Excello I backed the trailer (normal 5x9 landscape trailer) right in my garage to a waiting engine hoist. Lifted it up and drove the trailer out from under it. Then set it down on the floor. I moved it around the garage with some 1" black pipe roller and a pinch bar. Actually I had to do it 2 lifts (head/ram separate) as it was too much for my Carolina 5000lb hoist to pick. TBH it was too much for the trailer too, but....
 
TorontoBuilder said:
I'd like to solicit some opinions here.

I can get the seller to load it directly on with a crane. But then I can't unload it.

So should I make a pallet to load the mill on, or some other device that will let me either get a pallet truck forks under or a rolling cart with locking wheels?

I'm a little worried about the center of gravity on a knee mill and the potential to tip over when rolling on pallet truck or cart. I'm also worried my existing 4 inch steel casters would not support 2400 or 2800 lbs. I wish I had machinery rollers...
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The pros use a pallet to ship these things, so a forklift can handle them. Turn the head to 90 degrees and lower the knee to the bottom of travel. this lowers the COG a lot.The First mills are very tall. don't get in the way of any tilt - tin fact stay out of topple range on all sides, as much as you can..
 
An apology to everyone discussing this opportunity. I was away all day with no chance to participate.

I'm an hour from Windsor and can help if needed.

Hate to see that baby find the wrong home.
 
Dan Dubeau said:
Can you back a trailer in your shop/garage to unload? When I moved my Excello I backed the trailer (normal 5x9 landscape trailer) right in my garage to a waiting engine hoist. Lifted it up and drove the trailer out from under it. Then set it down on the floor. I moved it around the garage with some 1" black pipe roller and a pinch bar. Actually I had to do it 2 lifts (head/ram separate) as it was too much for my Carolina 5000lb hoist to pick. TBH it was too much for the trailer too, but....
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It is a typical residential garage... and I dont yet know what trailer we would have access to.

In an ideal world I'd want roll off trailer into garage... with a controlled descent from a winch holding the mill back
 
Dabbler said:
The pros use a pallet to ship these things, so a forklift can handle them. Turn the head to 90 degrees and lower the knee to the bottom of travel. this lowers the COG a lot.The First mills are very tall. don't get in the way of any tilt - tin fact stay out of topple range on all sides, as much as you can..
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All great observations and advice. Thank you.
 
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