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Bradells

(BRad)
In my quest for a longer 'poor mans DRO' I found some inexpensive 8" Callipers from the Jungle Delivery Specialists. Seeing 2 ads for what I presumed to be the same device, I decided to see if one was worth the extra $1 or not.

They came in the same packaging...

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Nearly identical ... think they're the same?


Well, they are, and one is not worth the extra dollar it was charged for. In fact, they were not even worth all the dollars they charged them for.

First thing, I couldn't get the same reading 3 out of 10 times trying to 'zero' out the calliper. This is probably caused by the extremely poor fit of the reader on the scale. Also the depth reader part was flopping around like a fish.

They've changed how they do the callipers, making them easier to produce by using a very small, but very wide head screw to 'capture' the rod, rather than the 'old' way of using a separate part to 'saddle' the rod in place with 2 screws and the extra bit.

Lastly, it didn't have a direct access to the output pins for an eventual external display. Being the case was all metal, I didn't feel like pulling it apart rather than using their great return policy.

Oh well, back they go.


For more fun, I ordered the next expensive 8" calliper. It had a more usual plastic body to the reader.

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It showed up in very similar packaging as the last attempt .... this made me very skeptical ... but since it was green, clearly there is someone else checking over the QC.

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The display is your usual. The previous ones would do fractional inches for the wood working crowds, this one doesn't (and I am fine with that!).

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It still has the new trend of lesser digits being smaller than just the last digit, but it is clearer than the previous callipers, and doesn't bother me that much (....yet).

It also has the 'new' style of keeping the depth rod in place. This one has very little to no slop.

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But sadly, where previous callipers would have a removable rear section exposing the output pins, this one does not.

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I guess when the time comes, I'll just 'peel' back that small bit of plastic to expose the pins (hopefully).



I placed it on the bed of the lathe, and I think it will work nicely .. just need to make some brackets to mount the scale off the casting, and a bracket to have the head follow the carriage. Also, need to figure out where to start the scale in relation to the head for the most useful movement of the carriage.... Both for lathe work, and milling (as it is the same base for both operations ... just move the spindle onto a Z slide).


Brad
 

PeterT

Ultra Member
Premium Member
In the inexpensive category its really hard to discern shop quality vs 'ok ya got me on that one'. I've collected a few over the years. The mechanics are usually OK. Makes you wonder how they can manufacture it for that price, never mind make a dollar profit. The biggest complaint is many consume batteries just sitting there turned off. I found a chep source of common batteries but they have a shelf life too.

Another thing to be aware if your application requires cutting the jaws or drilling holes to mount them onto something. They are typically hardened (as they should be). I used a Dremel cutoff wheel & occasional cooling spritz but it was slow sledding. Similarly drilling holes required carbide & even that was marginal. So depending on your application you might be ahead getting the jaw-less straight encoder with end brackets. I think we posted some examples elsewhere. Some of those talk to a DRO box so might save you hot tapping into pins. I'm not 100% but I dont think most of the cheapos 'output' but that's above my pay grade.
 

YotaBota

Mike
Premium Member
Makes you wonder how they can manufacture it for that price, never mind make a dollar profit.
And ship it from the other side of the world! Just about everything these days is built to a price point, the less the vendor is willing to pay the cheaper and worse the product (in theory). I have seen some cheap stuff that actually works but not much. Even when Crappytire has a 70% off sale they are still some how making money.
Brad - thanks for the review.
 

Bradells

(BRad)
In the inexpensive category its really hard to discern shop quality vs 'ok ya got me on that one'. I've collected a few over the years. The mechanics are usually OK. Makes you wonder how they can manufacture it for that price, never mind make a dollar profit. The biggest complaint is many consume batteries just sitting there turned off. I found a chep source of common batteries but they have a shelf life too.

Another thing to be aware if your application requires cutting the jaws or drilling holes to mount them onto something. They are typically hardened (as they should be). I used a Dremel cutoff wheel & occasional cooling spritz but it was slow sledding. Similarly drilling holes required carbide & even that was marginal. So depending on your application you might be ahead getting the jaw-less straight encoder with end brackets. I think we posted some examples elsewhere. Some of those talk to a DRO box so might save you hot tapping into pins. I'm not 100% but I dont think most of the cheapos 'output' but that's above my pay grade.

I’ve done this a few times. Dremel with cutoff disks are your friends.

I haven’t drilled into them, I just use the existing holes, or add in clamps...

We’ll see with this one!

Brad
 

Bradells

(BRad)
The new garage has a 14-30R (aka 'Dryer Plug') on the wall along with a single 5-15 outlet.

At work, we have a few 30A power distribution units from a few generations of equipment ago that aren't being used. I called the boss up and discussed how much $$ it's worth not to inventory one every few months would be ...

The distro has a L14-30 inlet plug, and I couldn't find any laying around, so I ordered a 'replacement dryer cable' on the Jungle Delivery Specialists for less price than the raw materials.

Heading over to the big store, I picked up a cable clamp and a blank face plate. Well, I found one that had a "3/4" knock out in it (yup, air quotes on that one)...

Getting back to the garage, I knocked the knock out ... out, only to find that the 3/4" cable clamp doesn't fit.

What to do?

I don't have the mill set up to bore it out, but I do have the lathe up and running ....

My chucks are 3", the plate is ~4" .....

I rummaged around my metal stock drawer and found a small chunk of aluminum bar. So I spun around the jaws on the 4jaw and put it in to make sure it clears.

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It just made it, so time to indicate it in to reduce vibrations.

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I was initially off by .020" so not too bad!

One probably should face the entire surface of the "plate", but I didn't want to do that with so much material being a interrupted cut, nor does the accuracy need to be there for this hole. Instead I placed some radial marks for lining up the existing hole.

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I lined up the cover as best as I could, made some marks for some 10-32 holes to clamp the cover in place.

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On the first hole, I accidentally grabbed the 12-24 tap instead of the 10-32 (I really don't like how this set is labelled .... ) and was having a hard time getting it started. Once I realized I was using the wrong tap, I relocated the cover, and drilled a fresh hole.

Using the CORRECT tap this time, it went much smoother. Using some home made clamps, I mounted it back onto the lathe.

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After checking the clearance of the tool post and carriage, I went away making the hole ~.100" larger.

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This material sadly work hardens like no tomorrow, and wasn't doing me any favours, but I got through it.

Here it is in action.

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Now I have 6 20A circuits (5x 5-20 and 1x L5-20) along with the existing 5-15 on the wall.


Really, I just need to buy a set of step drills when they go on sale, as that would have saved about 30 min to drill it to size!

Brad
 
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Bradells

(BRad)
Well, I think it’s going to be a bit of a sad weekend...

I’ve weathered many a recession, dip, dry spell and even SARS.... but after looking at my budget coming up for the last part of this year with the lack of income and EI support, I’m looking at selling some of my tools to get by.

I’m still on the fence, but I think a majority/all of my lathe and milling tools will be on the block.

Aside from Kijiji, is there any other decent place to sell equipment? It’s sad as I was really looking forward to getting back into this hobby with the new space.

Brad
 

DPittman

Ultra Member
Premium Member
Well, I think it’s going to be a bit of a sad weekend...

I’ve weathered many a recession, dip, dry spell and even SARS.... but after looking at my budget coming up for the last part of this year with the lack of income and EI support, I’m looking at selling some of my tools to get by.

I’m still on the fence, but I think a majority/all of my lathe and milling tools will be on the block.

Aside from Kijiji, is there any other decent place to sell equipment? It’s sad as I was really looking forward to getting back into this hobby with the new space.

Brad
Oh boy thats rough man. But you can rebuy all that stuff when things improve. I think i would choose Kijiji as the main platform for selling stuff, but it never hurts to have it in multiple places like Facebook and Townpost etc. I think i would stick to the web sites as opposed to any garage sale or auction type dispersal. I hope you get top dollar for your stuff ( and I suspect you will).
 

YYCHM

(Craig)
Premium Member
Hang in there Bro, we are with you. I've suffered more than my fair share of down turns and know what it feels like:(

Post your stuff here as well, lots of our members are small machine users.

Craig
 
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DavidR8

Scrap maker
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Oh man...this totally sucks.
FWIW I have had excellent luck selling via FB Marketplace.


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Hruul

Lee - metalworking novice
Sorry to hear that Brad. Never a good situation when it comes to liquidating items to make ends meet.
 

Bradells

(BRad)
Back on track are we?

Not yet... still debating on selling the machines...

We’re back in the warehouse 3-4 days a week.... with no actual ‘work’ per say (event production house).... not quite enough to cover the monthly bills and insurance...

We’re basically working on a backlog of warehouse/inventory upkeep and assimilating some new company acquisitions (pre covid)


Brad
 
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