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Really ?

Chicken lights said:
Mostly rhetorical, I never figured out if its harder for the children to bury the parents, or the parents to bury the children
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I think it depends on the age of everyone involved.
Burying an 80 year old parent is not an unexpected job for a 60 year old.
Burying a 30 year old parent is crippling for a 15 year old child.
Burying a 15 year old child can break a 30 year old parent.
 
Doggggboy said:
I think it depends on the age of everyone involved.
Burying an 80 year old parent is not an unexpected job for a 60 year old.
Burying a 30 year old parent is crippling for a 15 year old child.
Burying a 15 year old child can break a 30 year old parent.
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Agreed. You get the gist of my comment

I let it marinate for well over a year before contacting the parents of a 23 year old we lost. I wanted to let the parents know they raised a great son

I've been the other side of that, 30's and burying people in their 40's

Tracking down and calling the family of the 23 y/o was a hard phone call to make, I felt the family deserved to know we missed him too
 
The house foundation gawds have thrown me a bone???

This was to be the year that I finally solved the water seepage into the basement. In the past few years there was water coming in during spring thaw and on summer days when we would have torrential downpours. A towel on the floor and checking it a few times a day at worst was all it ever took to deal with it. Still, not a solution. In the meantime, I tried everything I could think of to divert water away from the foundation.

This year I was going to start investigating the exact location of the water entrance by opening the wall. I was certain the source of the problem was from the soil being saturated with water near the foundation and eventually finding a way in at the basement floor level. I suspect the 50+ year-old weeping tile has failed. The point of entrance was likely going to be where the wall and floor meet. During spring run off, no matter how much snow I cleared away, some water eventually pools on the side where the leak is. At those moments I observed water was NOT running into the basement drain from the weeping tile pipe on the south side. Water would still come in from the north drain line.

This summer we have had some heavy downpours, especially this past weekend. So much rain that normally we should have seen water on the floor days ago. No water has come in at all. Not a drop. Even though the water drains away towards the front of the house there has been so much rain that it has pooled just like spring run off. Upon inspection I now see both north and south pipes from the weeping tile have water running into the basement drain. It seems impossible but it appears the problem has fixed itself. What does one do to pay their respects to a foundation gawd?😳

Meanwhile, this weekend I have neighbors whose basements have not been so lucky. Lots of flooding throughout the city.
 
Elektrishun said:
The house foundation gawds have thrown me a bone???

This was to be the year that I finally solved the water seepage into the basement. In the past few years there was water coming in during spring thaw and on summer days when we would have torrential downpours. A towel on the floor and checking it a few times a day at worst was all it ever took to deal with it. Still, not a solution. In the meantime, I tried everything I could think of to divert water away from the foundation.

This year I was going to start investigating the exact location of the water entrance by opening the wall. I was certain the source of the problem was from the soil being saturated with water near the foundation and eventually finding a way in at the basement floor level. I suspect the 50+ year-old weeping tile has failed. The point of entrance was likely going to be where the wall and floor meet. During spring run off, no matter how much snow I cleared away, some water eventually pools on the side where the leak is. At those moments I observed water was NOT running into the basement drain from the weeping tile pipe on the south side. Water would still come in from the north drain line.

This summer we have had some heavy downpours, especially this past weekend. So much rain that normally we should have seen water on the floor days ago. No water has come in at all. Not a drop. Even though the water drains away towards the front of the house there has been so much rain that it has pooled just like spring run off. Upon inspection I now see both north and south pipes from the weeping tile have water running into the basement drain. It seems impossible but it appears the problem has fixed itself. What does one do to pay their respects to a foundation gawd?😳

Meanwhile, this weekend I have neighbors whose basements have not been so lucky. Lots of flooding throughout the city.
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It's possible that all your work to control surface drainage is working well..... in the summer.
Come spring as the frost starts coming out it's possible that the water follows a path along this frozen layer and in through a cold seam or a crack in the foundation wall above the floor line. Can you see the foundation wall, or is it behind drywall or such?
I am a firm believer that these things don't fix themselves. Hopefully, I have been wrong for a long time, but from what I have seen..... 🙄
 
140mower said:
It's possible that all your work to control surface drainage is working well..... in the summer.
Come spring as the frost starts coming out it's possible that the water follows a path along this frozen layer and in through a cold seam or a crack in the foundation wall above the floor line. Can you see the foundation wall, or is it behind drywall or such?
I am a firm believer that these things don't fix themselves. Hopefully, I have been wrong for a long time, but from what I have seen..... 🙄
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I am of the same mindset. These scenarios usually get worse when left alone, not better.

Yet with the rain we have been getting lately, there is no reason I can think of that would have prevented water from finding it's way in at that same location, as it always has, even under less severe conditions. Heavy Summer rain has always produced the same result as Spring run off. This past weekend, when our neighbors basements are flooding, our basement is bone dry throughout. Thinking maybe the problem moved I inspected every nook and cranny. Nothing.

Still, I like this new direction our foundation appears to be taking. But don't like it at the same time.

(rubbing my whiskers) It's dry...too dry if you ask me.
 
Maybe with all the rain this summer the ground surrounding the foundation has saturated and swelled to the point of self sealing. Without the cracks and with your remediation attempts at surface drainage the water is actually running off finally.
Take the win.
 
When asking for advice to repair or restore something there always seems to be "that guy" who feels obligated to respond with, "Why bother, it's not worth anything. You could almost buy a new one for what it's going to cost to repair that one."

I just ran into that recently while attempting to fix some audio gear for my son. He preferred to keep it as close to original as possible. It now works and he got lucky on the cost (my free labor and another gentleman's inexpensive repair cost). But when you show up asking questions amongst a group of people who are apparently "enthusiasts" towards a paticular brand of audio gear and that's the immediate response of several members it makes you wonder about the "enthusiast" claim. The motivation for a repair or restoration doesn't always boil down to monetary value.
 
Elektrishun said:
When asking for advice to repair or restore something there always seems to be "that guy" who feels obligated to respond with, "Why bother, it's not worth anything. You could almost buy a new one for what it's going to cost to repair that one."

I just ran into that recently while attempting to fix some audio gear for my son. He preferred to keep it as close to original as possible. It now works and he got lucky on the cost (my free labor and another gentleman's inexpensive repair cost). But when you show up asking questions amongst a group of people who are apparently "enthusiasts" towards a paticular brand of audio gear and that's the immediate response of several members it makes you wonder about the "enthusiast" claim. The motivation for a repair or restoration doesn't always boil down to monetary value.
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You mean like refurbishing 1896 lathe so it can sit about 5ft away from a 2013 lathe?
 
Elektrishun said:
When asking for advice to repair or restore something there always seems to be "that guy" who feels obligated to respond with, "Why bother, it's not worth anything. You could almost buy a new one for what it's going to cost to repair that one."
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My stated position is that buying just about anything new is an act of moral failure.

We jam econo. (You can google that phrase. I bow to my man Mike Watt.)
 
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someidiot said:
My stated position is that buying just about anything new is an act of moral failure.

We jam econo. (You can google that phrase. I bow to my man Mike Watt.)
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Wiki:
"We Jam Econo: The Story of the Minutemen, is a full-length documentary about the influential 1980s punk rock band Minutemen, created by director Tim Irwin."

Might have to check that out. When listening to old and new punk it usually ends up being Pixies, Amyl and The Sniffers, or Viagra Boys.
 
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