New Hobby Machinist in Edmonton

[Emery]

Hello Everyone,

I just picked up my first metal lathe which is a Standard Modern 9 Utilathe Model A.

I am very happy with it so far and everything seems to work as intended!!

I am brand new to the machining world but have experience in fabricating (welding mostly, Stick, Mig, Tig) and mechanics!

Right now I am giving my new lathe a good once over clean and will going to do head stock oil change / flush here shortly. What else would you guys recommend checking/cleaning while I am at it? This was literally and “barn find”.

I am also diving into the world of feeds and speeds for HSS and Carbide Insert tooling....wow there is a lot to learn =) (Any cheat sheets out there?) I’m sure it will be second nature shortly.

Also, where does everyone buy their metal stock from in Edmonton? - metal super market....?

Does anyone have the same model as me?!

I chose 30w compressor non detergent crank case gear oil. (Closest thing I could find to the recommended “SAE 30”)

Thanks for reading!

 

[DavidR8]

Welcome Emery!
I believe @YotaBota also has a SM 9.

 

[turner]

Welcome from Red Deer. I ventured into the Lathe world about 2 yrs ago....the same way you did. Bought a 12" x 24" Taiwan model, because it fit my space. My machine was very grubby, old farmers machine shop, 3 months later all new brgs/belts/etc...because I could. Thankfully for the grime though, no rust. Buy most of my tooling from https://www.kbctools.ca/, usually shopping their flyer, can't get better service. IMO
Todd T.

 

[YYCHM]

Welcome from Calgary.

I have the same machine (as does @YotaBota and @Hruul ) and really like it. What all did you get with your machine in terms of chucks, rests, plates, taper attachment, tooling, etc? What did it cost you if you don't mind sharing.

Here is mine.... https://canadianhobbymetalworkers.com/threads/9-sm-utilathe-restoration.1671/

For feeds and speeds I use this https://littlemachineshop.com/Reference/CuttingSpeeds.php

I found non-detergent SAE30 at a local automotive parts store, but I think you can get it at Canadian Tire as well.

 

[YotaBota]

Another inmate to the asylum, lol, welcome Emery. I do have the same lathe as you, if you don't have the manual yet here is the link.
http://www.standardmodernlathes.com/resources.html

If you need a 4jaw chuck this anNOS Atlas chuck at a good price. I bought the 3 and 4 jaw and am happy with both.
http://www.hhrobertsmachinery.com/Accessories/Chucks/bench_lathe.html

I've had my SM9 for almost a year and so far am quite happy with it. I mostly just do goofing around but that's the way I learn.

 

[Brent H]

Nice lathes guys!!!

I have a 10” Utilathe- a bit different but @YYCHobbyMachinist and @Chicken lights and I partener’d up to take a broken up machine and salvage it to fix about 6 lathes .

 

[Marc Moreau]

I have 10 Ultilathate Love it.

 

[DPittman]

Welcome. Nice starter lathe! I've read good things abou the quality of standard modern lathes.

 

[Emery]

Welcome from Red Deer. I ventured into the Lathe world about 2 yrs ago....the same way you did. Bought a 12" x 24" Taiwan model, because it fit my space. My machine was very grubby, old farmers machine shop, 3 months later all new brgs/belts/etc...because I could. Thankfully for the grime though, no rust. Buy most of my tooling from https://www.kbctools.ca/, usually shopping their flyer, can't get better service. IMO
Todd T.

Thanks for the link Todd! Mine was the farm style... grease everywhere with minimal rust. Currently all the rusty parts are soaking in evaporust!

 

[Emery]

Welcome from Calgary.

I have the same machine (as does @YotaBota and @Hruul ) and really like it. What all did you get with your machine in terms of chucks, rests, plates, taper attachment, tooling, etc? What did it cost you if you don't mind sharing.

Here is mine.... https://canadianhobbymetalworkers.com/threads/9-sm-utilathe-restoration.1671/

For feeds and speeds I use this https://littlemachineshop.com/Reference/CuttingSpeeds.php

I found non-detergent SAE30 at a local automotive parts store, but I think you can get it at Canadian Tire as well.

Hello Craig, Thanks for the great link for the Speeds and Feeds!

I may ask you a few question in the future about my machine. I still don’t know what a few things are there for. (Maybe they are not stock)

I got a fair selection of gear (I think) I’ll attache a picture. I also have a 3 jaw and a QCTP.

 

[Emery]

Another inmate to the asylum, lol, welcome Emery. I do have the same lathe as you, if you don't have the manual yet here is the link.
http://www.standardmodernlathes.com/resources.html

If you need a 4jaw chuck this anNOS Atlas chuck at a good price. I bought the 3 and 4 jaw and am happy with both.
http://www.hhrobertsmachinery.com/Accessories/Chucks/bench_lathe.html

I've had my SM9 for almost a year and so far am quite happy with it. I mostly just do goofing around but that's the way I learn.

Hey YotaBota! I am glad to hear your liking your machine. I am happy with mine so far. But I have a lot of learning to do!

Ill be play learning as well. What projects did you start with?

 

[Emery]

Nice lathes guys!!!

I have a 10” Utilathe- a bit different but @YYCHobbyMachinist and @Chicken lights and I partener’d up to take a broken up machine and salvage it to fix about 6 lathes .

Very cool! I love working on machines that are made to be worked on... rather than a cheap product just gets replaced.

 

[Brent H]

@Emery : here is an epic tale of a man and his quest for restored SM9 Utilathe: https://canadianhobbymetalworkers.com/threads/9-sm-utilathe-restoration.1671/

 

[YotaBota]

What projects did you start with?

I built the Harold Hall End Mill sharpener, a clamp-on hitch for the tractor, carriage stop and I'm working new hand wheels for the milling machine. There have been a bunch of bushings and threading as well so the Sterling will be a whole new level of precision for me.
Does your chuck come off okay or is it frozen? My machine came out of a school (of hard knocks) and the chuck was a b_tch to get off.

 

[Sailor]

Welcome Emery.

 

[YYCHM]

@YotaBota , @Hruul are your drive pulleys set up this way???

Mine are swapped.

 

[YotaBota]

Mine are swapped from the picture as well. I don't think it will make any difference unless there would be a different load on the spindle bearing.

 

[YYCHM]

Mine are swapped form the picture as well. I don't think it will make any difference unless there would be a different load on the spindle bearing.

Isn't that going to make your face plate belt settings backwards? Also, the two pulleys aren't the same size. They aren't on my machine.

 

[Emery]

I built the Harold Hall End Mill sharpener, a clamp-on hitch for the tractor, carriage stop and I'm working new hand wheels for the milling machine. There have been a bunch of bushings and threading as well so the Sterling will be a whole new level of precision for me.
Does your chuck come off okay or is it frozen? My machine came out of a school (of hard knocks) and the chuck was a b_tch to get off.

My chick I was very stuck! I tried a few tricks with no luck then kept trying... And managed to freed it up. I took apart the 4 jaw and 3 jaw today and cleaned them up.

 

[Emery]

Isn't that going to make your face plate belt settings backwards? Also, the two pulleys aren't the same size. They aren't on my machine.

very interesting... The speeds are definitely accurate enough to seem correct. 50 RPM is in the correct spot and 1500 RPM is in the correct spot everything else seems “normal”.

can you guys pass along some measurements to make sure mine are not “custom farm”.

If they just took off the top and put it on the bottom and vice versa without flipping the orientation the RPMs shouldn’t change.