• Scam Alert. Members are reminded to NOT send money to buy anything. Don't buy things remote and have it shipped - go get it yourself, pay in person, and take your equipment with you. Scammers have burned people on this forum. Urgency, secrecy, excuses, selling for friend, newish members, FUD, are RED FLAGS. A video conference call is not adequate assurance. Face to face interactions are required. Please report suspicions to the forum admins. Stay Safe - anyone can get scammed.

I need some fresh eyes to look at my lifting set-up. Safe or Not?

@John Conroy You are taking a risk in bolting to the table. Use a 2000lb ratchet strap to the base, and lift the top corner with that. The maximum load from that point will be around 700 lbs.

I'd feel bad if the table blows out.
 
Agree with Dabbler about using the t slot for any serious lifting. Lifting strap to the base is best from my point of view.
 
Janger said:
I think that could mean it could tip really easily. The center of gravity would be above the lifting points. I would not do this.
Click to expand...
I’ll ask because I’m curious then

What’s different between lifting from the base using chains versus lifting below the base using a forklift?

I’ve moved dozens of machines with a forklift under the base, ones much heavier than this machine. Just asking
 
@Chicken lights I never lift using a chain to the base. lifting straps only. I use chain when I need to use the chain hook - that is, where it an lift without touching paint.

- To lift the 1000lb lathe bed, I made a bar that was 10"X5"X1/2" with 1/4" ply on top. I attached a lifting eye to it and placed it under the bed. I could then use a chain hoist to lift the bed without worry.
 
Dabbler said:
@Chicken lights I never lift using a chain to the base. lifting straps only. I use chain when I need to use the chain hook - that is, where it an lift without touching paint.

- To lift the 1000lb lathe bed, I made a bar that was 10"X5"X1/2" with 1/4" ply on top. I attached a lifting eye to it and placed it under the bed. I could then use a chain hoist to lift the bed without worry.
Click to expand...
Everyone does things differently. If you don’t ask why you don’t learn
 
Thanks for all the input everyone. Dan and I have decided to play it safe and he's going to rent either a level load trailer or a tiltdeck. I'm going to put the ram and head back on but leave the head inverted to lower the CG. Hopefully the weather cooperates. Pick up is scheduled for this weekend.
 
John Conroy said:
Thanks for all the input everyone. Dan and I have decided to play it safe and he's going to rent either a level load trailer or a tiltdeck. I'm going to put the ram and head back on but leave the head inverted to lower the CG. Hopefully the weather cooperates. Pick up is scheduled for this weekend.
Click to expand...

Wise choice IMHO. With the level load trailer can you simply put a pallet jack under it and roll it on?
 
Chicken lights said:
I’ll ask because I’m curious then

What’s different between lifting from the base using chains versus lifting below the base using a forklift?

I’ve moved dozens of machines with a forklift under the base, ones much heavier than this machine. Just asking
Click to expand...

That is a good question. I’m not a rigger. But so I think the answer is with straps or chains the load isn’t held rigidly and can wobble. If you lift a load like that the center of gravity should be below the lift point. A fork lift is rigid. Anyone else got any ideas.
 
Janger said:
That is a good question. I’m not a rigger. But so I think the answer is with straps or chains the load isn’t held rigidly and can wobble. If you lift a load like that the center of gravity should be below the lift point. A fork lift is rigid. Anyone else got any ideas.
Click to expand...

I think slinging it from the base would be fine provided the upper portions of the load were included in the sling arrangement as well. Think net.
 
Last edited:
There's not 'right' or perfect way to do lifts - there are perhaps many ways to add risk of an unplanned event. Here's how I slung my Hartford mill to raise and lower it for transport. [Note to Craig - you're right, there is cinching to precent it toppling: 2 wraps on each of the 4 load bearing straps, cinched with a strong ratchet strap.]

Last step.JPG
 
A0AD991C-FC35-47AD-8919-E5DBA21E2627.jpeg

i picked this up a couple weeks ago. It’s called a “collector” to help organize rigging apparently. No real use for it other than you just never know someday. Free is free I’ve collected a lot of my rigging straps that way
 
It's great to have to have everyone's expertise and experience so easily accessible. I am not experienced in rigging and have none of the equipment. I'm glad I had enough sense to stop and ask questions when my butt started to seriously pucker when I lifted with the engine crane.
 
John Conroy said:
It's great to have to have everyone's expertise and experience so easily accessible. I am not experienced in rigging and have none of the equipment. I'm glad I had enough sense to stop and ask questions when my butt started to seriously pucker when I lifted with the engine crane.
Click to expand...

How did you get it in your shop in the first place?
 
This morning I put the ram and head back on, now that I have done it twice it's a piece of cake. The machine is sitting on skates and everything is ready to go including a few boxes of spares that came with the Ferro when I bought it. My wife is getting cranky because she can't park in the garage until this is gone, at least the weather is good.

 
We used a tilt deck trailer and let it slide down controlled by the winch and landed it onto the skates. It was -25 degrees the day so no fun. Moving it around in the shop is easy with a toe jack and skates.

 
Look safe to me with what Dabbler said - do NOT use the table - casting may blow and it will be a ... problem.

I would not even hesitate to use my bending itself in the middle home made engine hoist.

Without the head and ram mass is greatly reduced. If this is BP one clone you are now talking just 1500 lbs.
 
John and my neighbour are going to use this trailer.
Looks like it should work in conjunction with some skates or rollers and a winch.
 
Janger said:
Looks great I want a trailer like that.
Click to expand...
I picked up the trailer from the rental place yesterday and delivered it to the neighbour. It is a neat design with a ramp and roller on each corner and a hydraulic ram in the front. The only problem is that it is super heavy. 16 feet and 4000lbs. Les was having trouble with his truck overheating pushing the wind yesterday. Should be an interesting drive home with another 3500 lbs on it. He should be near or at John's place now doing the load out. If you happen to pass a mill on a trailer on the side of the highway between St Albert and Regina, you'll know the trip didn't go as planned.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top