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Some from today. We made Williston ND but gotta stop to get some hours back.
The whoops was a day cab pulling two 53’s that jackknifed the whole mess somehow
https://www.google.ca/maps/dir/Grav...cfeb0f1e3!2m2!1d-103.6179745!2d48.1469683!3e0
Running out of Google Maps weigh points LOL.
You say We, do you have someone with you?
What does "get some hours back" mean?
Last image looks like single lane gravel? Is it?
Craig
Running out of Google Maps weigh points LOL.
You say We, do you have someone with you?
What does "get some hours back" mean?
Last image looks like single lane gravel? Is it?
Craig
You know, you’re not the first person to ask me that. I’m not sure if it just sounds cooler to say “we” or if “we” actually means me n the big horse
Like - We GOTS to go
We way behind
We catch you on the flip flop
We gonna run it through the woods
Just doesn’t have the same patter as - I need to hurry
I’m running late
See you on the way back
I’m going to run backroads to avoid law enforcement officials
Hours of service (HOS)- I can only work so many hours in a set time period. In Canada that’s 70 hours in 7 days. (For simplicity sake ignore the fact that right now I’m in the USA)
So I worked last Wednesday which is day one. Tuesday of this week is day 7. On Tuesday I had 6 hours left that I could legally work, or, I’d burned 64 hours of my 70
It’s a rolling 7 days but I’ll really confuse you if I get into that.
So pretend today is Tuesday, I worked my 6 hours and I’m still in Canada. Now I have to take 36 hours off in order to get a new 70 hour work week again, or “get some hours back”
Um I’m not sure if that was one lane, it’s probably two lane but I doubt I’d want to meet another truck on those roads
Are you on electronic logs? If yes, what system are u running?
I work for a trucking company and do the IT side including HOS etc
I know the process well
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I work for a trucking company and do the IT side including HOS etc
I know the process well
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Yes. Omnitracs
It’s garbage for the most part, I’ve gotten more HOS violations since we went to elogs than I can shake a stick at. So now I run with a jacked book that nobody looks at because “it’s an elog and must be legal”
Yet it’s hotter than a smoking pistol
I don’t understand it at all, to be honest
Sorry to hear about the Omnitracs 
We finally moved our drivers off of that a couple of years ago after a 20+ year run. They aren't progressive enough and are behind the times.
But, it can only get better.......
We finally moved our drivers off of that a couple of years ago after a 20+ year run. They aren't progressive enough and are behind the times.
But, it can only get better.......
historicalarms
Ultra Member
Ahh yes the "log book "dance...never ends, must be the same with digital as it was with book copy. Digital wasn't a "thing" when I quit highway hauling. Back then "log book rest time" was a complete oxymoron...seen many a driver sitting i na truck stop stressed to the limit of a nervous breakdown trying to juggle 3 log books at a time just to be able to buy shoes for the family. 2 logs were common but it took somewhat of a genius to juggle 3 without getting slapped...hard!!!
Ah yes...inter-stating....back on new years day 1978 ( I know the year because I got married in Aug of 77) 8 of us truckers & a truck push in a pick-up tried to clear the Sweetgrass border all at the same time, we were loaded with 8" drill casing pipe to drop at a threading plant in Casper Wy. and then down to Abilene Texas (yes there are two Abilene's, one in Kansas and one in Texas) to pick a drilling rig up for delivery back to Calgary. There were 3 company owned truck & the rest of us were Owner-Op. (I was a hired driver in one of the O-O units). While clearing, one of the company driers was told to "park over there in that fenced area and attend the desk inside", while the rest of us were cleared to carry on...but we had to stick together as a group so we all found place to park for what we thought would be a few minutes, this was about 5:30-6 pm (all except the truck push who did carry on, trying to find us a night parking spot that would hold all of us). After an hours wait (you never want to rush anything at a border crossing eh) another driver and I went inside to find out what was keeping the guy (Keith was his name from Blackie Ab.)...he wasn't at the counter anymore, he was in a side room that we could see from the counter with two other suited dudes with military sidewalls and very serious looks on their faces...the side room windows & door had bars on them!! this wasn't going to end quickly was my first thought. When we asked the counter person what was up with Keith we were asked to kindly take a seat on the bench, also adding that it was now 'after hours" so she couldn't buzz us back out to the parking lot until our business was completed and Keith was our business so we would be a while.
Finally just before mid night the two dour looking dudes in the barred room came out to us and informed us that Keith had been observed inter-stating by border patrol on an earlier trip and either he had to pay a $3000 U.S cash fine (no credit card or check, it had to be cash) or he could wait till morning and take a ride with them to the Shelby court house in the morning to see a judge. If he paid the fine he could continue with us on the probationary condition that he be back at the border in no less than 16 days (our trip was supposed to take 14 days total). We all didn't want to wait for the court house so we all pooled our U.S. food & fuel traveling money and bailed him out for the trip...
For the folks reading this that don't know what the trem "inter-stating" reefer's too, it is a non US. citizen picking up a load from anyplace in U.S. and delivering it to another destination also in the U.S., it is considered taking work away from their citizens. A Canadian can deliver a load anywhere in the U.S. that originates in Canada and pick up a re-load backhaul to a Canadian destination but not point -to-point in the U.S. It sucks that American truckers can legally go point-to-point in our country but not us in theirs.
Of course Keith denied doing such a dastardly deed when accused but those boys with the military sidewalls showed him ( & us before we paid his fine) a photo album of a two week trip he had made weeks before that he had inter-stated on...they had photo's of him at every stop he made weather it was to load or unload, stop to piss or have something to eat...somebody in a black sedan followed his every move for two weeks and journaled everything...over a $400 lumber haul from Montana to North Dakota and then another from N.D. into Colorado.
I will never be amazed at the lengths the U.S. government will go to to to stop what we might consider a small insignificant infraction after that day .
We continued on with our planned itinerary for the rest of the trip, dropped pipe in Casper, hiked on down to Boulder Colorado and pickeu up a load of lumber at a re-load yard & drove it on down to Childress Texas and unloaded at a trailer manuf. yard...if you've ben paying attention you will recognize that we just inter-stated again...on the very same trip...very young and even more foolish eh.
Oh ya... the rig was still being sandblasted & painted when we arrived to pick it up so had to wait a couple days for it...Keith had 6 hours left on his 16 day probation period when we crossed back.
Ah yes...inter-stating....back on new years day 1978 ( I know the year because I got married in Aug of 77) 8 of us truckers & a truck push in a pick-up tried to clear the Sweetgrass border all at the same time, we were loaded with 8" drill casing pipe to drop at a threading plant in Casper Wy. and then down to Abilene Texas (yes there are two Abilene's, one in Kansas and one in Texas) to pick a drilling rig up for delivery back to Calgary. There were 3 company owned truck & the rest of us were Owner-Op. (I was a hired driver in one of the O-O units). While clearing, one of the company driers was told to "park over there in that fenced area and attend the desk inside", while the rest of us were cleared to carry on...but we had to stick together as a group so we all found place to park for what we thought would be a few minutes, this was about 5:30-6 pm (all except the truck push who did carry on, trying to find us a night parking spot that would hold all of us). After an hours wait (you never want to rush anything at a border crossing eh) another driver and I went inside to find out what was keeping the guy (Keith was his name from Blackie Ab.)...he wasn't at the counter anymore, he was in a side room that we could see from the counter with two other suited dudes with military sidewalls and very serious looks on their faces...the side room windows & door had bars on them!! this wasn't going to end quickly was my first thought. When we asked the counter person what was up with Keith we were asked to kindly take a seat on the bench, also adding that it was now 'after hours" so she couldn't buzz us back out to the parking lot until our business was completed and Keith was our business so we would be a while.
Finally just before mid night the two dour looking dudes in the barred room came out to us and informed us that Keith had been observed inter-stating by border patrol on an earlier trip and either he had to pay a $3000 U.S cash fine (no credit card or check, it had to be cash) or he could wait till morning and take a ride with them to the Shelby court house in the morning to see a judge. If he paid the fine he could continue with us on the probationary condition that he be back at the border in no less than 16 days (our trip was supposed to take 14 days total). We all didn't want to wait for the court house so we all pooled our U.S. food & fuel traveling money and bailed him out for the trip...
For the folks reading this that don't know what the trem "inter-stating" reefer's too, it is a non US. citizen picking up a load from anyplace in U.S. and delivering it to another destination also in the U.S., it is considered taking work away from their citizens. A Canadian can deliver a load anywhere in the U.S. that originates in Canada and pick up a re-load backhaul to a Canadian destination but not point -to-point in the U.S. It sucks that American truckers can legally go point-to-point in our country but not us in theirs.
Of course Keith denied doing such a dastardly deed when accused but those boys with the military sidewalls showed him ( & us before we paid his fine) a photo album of a two week trip he had made weeks before that he had inter-stated on...they had photo's of him at every stop he made weather it was to load or unload, stop to piss or have something to eat...somebody in a black sedan followed his every move for two weeks and journaled everything...over a $400 lumber haul from Montana to North Dakota and then another from N.D. into Colorado.
I will never be amazed at the lengths the U.S. government will go to to to stop what we might consider a small insignificant infraction after that day .
We continued on with our planned itinerary for the rest of the trip, dropped pipe in Casper, hiked on down to Boulder Colorado and pickeu up a load of lumber at a re-load yard & drove it on down to Childress Texas and unloaded at a trailer manuf. yard...if you've ben paying attention you will recognize that we just inter-stated again...on the very same trip...very young and even more foolish eh.
Oh ya... the rig was still being sandblasted & painted when we arrived to pick it up so had to wait a couple days for it...Keith had 6 hours left on his 16 day probation period when we crossed back.
There’s so many towns with the same name in the USA it’s not even funny. I just drove past Joplin Montana, until then I only knew of the one in Missouri. I always doublecheck the state before heading out. I’ve heard of guys going 10 hours drive and dispatch calling to find out why their going the wrong way.
The border can be “fun”. I swear the agents screw with you just to see how you react. I’ve been x-rayed, searched, had the truck searched, been given a breathalyzer, handcuffed, had the trailer searched, its ridiculous. Then the next time they’ll barely look at you and wave you on through.
The border can be “fun”. I swear the agents screw with you just to see how you react. I’ve been x-rayed, searched, had the truck searched, been given a breathalyzer, handcuffed, had the trailer searched, its ridiculous. Then the next time they’ll barely look at you and wave you on through.
So.... when you left ON with the pipe, was this plastic wood haul to Deluth already booked? If so, was this 36hr hiatus factored into the delivery schedule?
What's a HOS violation and what are the consequences?
Let us know when your making miles again.
Thanks,
Craig
What's a HOS violation and what are the consequences?
Let us know when your making miles again.
Thanks,
Craig
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historicalarms
Ultra Member
I've heard battlefield vets say that war is "many many days of boredom punctuated with seconds of incredible terror & stress...Trucking is somewhat similar...only in a battlefield situation it is someone with a distinct thought process tryin' to kill you...in a trucking situation it is usually someone in a four-wheeler with absolutely no thought process at all trying to kill you LOL.
Reminiscing about that trip to Texas (absolutely the best trip I ever had down south that has a couple more amusing chapters) has got me remembering a lot of sometimes amusing or terror situations that happened in my -before marriage- heavy hauler days. Alto, as a I said before this aint machining but fro the comments I have received, some are finding it interesting and a bit of a break from the norm.
I will try to relate a short blurb every day or so...until someone tells me to shut my yap pls. LOL.
Reminiscing about that trip to Texas (absolutely the best trip I ever had down south that has a couple more amusing chapters) has got me remembering a lot of sometimes amusing or terror situations that happened in my -before marriage- heavy hauler days. Alto, as a I said before this aint machining but fro the comments I have received, some are finding it interesting and a bit of a break from the norm.
I will try to relate a short blurb every day or so...until someone tells me to shut my yap pls. LOL.
No, they found this load on Tuesday from the sounds of it. Nothing I drag around is really time sensitive so delivering Monday instead of Friday isn’t a huge deal, other than wasting my time. On paper logs I could’ve made Friday delivery easily.
HOS violation- anywhere from a warning, to a fine and points, to being placed out of service (OOS).
Truckers have two driving abstracts. Your personal one then a commercial one
We gonna amble east bound see if we can find Minnesota
North Dakota
Minnesota
Canadian Pacific locomotive, I’m guessing that’s Canadian oil heading south?
historicalarms
Ultra Member
Yup...Canadian trains still running on the "right side of the border" but not so much, this side these days...
https://www.hostfest.com
Passed a billboard for that in Minot, ND. “Pure scandamonium”. Sounds like fun!!
Rugby, ND is apparently the geographical centre of North America
We almost in Duluth, gonna try to drop the wagon and check out the aerial bridge
Passed a billboard for that in Minot, ND. “Pure scandamonium”. Sounds like fun!!
Rugby, ND is apparently the geographical centre of North America
We almost in Duluth, gonna try to drop the wagon and check out the aerial bridge
Those two crashes near Guernsey aren’t good news. Is the rolling stock worn out or the tracks in bad shape?