A "quick" project

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historicalarms

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Awesome job man. this thread brings back memories of early childhood living in rural Ab.

every farm around had one of those old pump engines to water the house & the stock tank, they ran at least twice every day. There were many different makes ( pretty much every farm tractor manuf had its own version of pump motor) of those and also different sizes, from the private farm size that most everyone had to the bigger models that ran the same but had quite a bit more HP to run every oil well head donkey in the province before electric power was run to all the wells.
When I was a kid, there was 3 ways to tell how cold it was on any winter morning, looking at the thermometer (but you had to get out of bed to do that). It was much nicer to just lay under the warm covers and listen....to a train going by on the tracks or listen to the oilwell pumps that were popping away all around us within a mile and a half.
When it was mild out everything sounded far off in the distance but as it got colder the sound was much magnified in the denser air, at 30 or 40 below a train on the tracks 3/4 of a mile from the house sounded like it was coming through the walls and those "bangs" from the pump motors on the "pull stroke" sounded like shotgun rounds. I mention the pull stroke because the pull lasted about 45 seconds of loud bangs but on the down stroke the engine governors went into an idle mode so that the engines just made a wuff-wufff sound pushing the sucker rod back down the hole.
All the above nostalgia taken into account.....I much prefer just walking over to the tap for a drink of water
 
Proxule

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historicalarms said:
Awesome job man. this thread brings back memories of early childhood living in rural Ab.

every farm around had one of those old pump engines to water the house & the stock tank, they ran at least twice every day. There were many different makes ( pretty much every farm tractor manuf had its own version of pump motor) of those and also different sizes, from the private farm size that most everyone had to the bigger models that ran the same but had quite a bit more HP to run every oil well head donkey in the province before electric power was run to all the wells.
When I was a kid, there was 3 ways to tell how cold it was on any winter morning, looking at the thermometer (but you had to get out of bed to do that). It was much nicer to just lay under the warm covers and listen....to a train going by on the tracks or listen to the oilwell pumps that were popping away all around us within a mile and a half.
When it was mild out everything sounded far off in the distance but as it got colder the sound was much magnified in the denser air, at 30 or 40 below a train on the tracks 3/4 of a mile from the house sounded like it was coming through the walls and those "bangs" from the pump motors on the "pull stroke" sounded like shotgun rounds. I mention the pull stroke because the pull lasted about 45 seconds of loud bangs but on the down stroke the engine governors went into an idle mode so that the engines just made a wuff-wufff sound pushing the sucker rod back down the hole.
All the above nostalgia taken into account.....I much prefer just walking over to the tap for a drink of water
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Fantastic story, thanks for sharing!
I enjoyed reading the technique used to measure temps!

I would love to find a small pump and couple it to this engine!
 
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historicalarms said:
All the above nostalgia taken into account.....I much prefer just walking over to the tap for a drink of water
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Ya, pretty much sums up how I feel.

Lots of great memories, but really and truly we forget how great we have it now. And that doesn't even begin to take into account stuff like heart surgery, disease treatments, and...... viagra......
 
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historicalarms

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viagra..
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Ha ha ha an old hard bitten rough neighbor lady ( God bless old Nada, she could throw calve with one arm at branding time) didnt share your opinion on that product when it was invented....her words in the local bar one night after a few...." Ive been waited around for 40 years waiting for that old bastard to loose that and now they invent that $hit".
 
Brian H

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Proxule said:
Yeah, so..... Maybe a bit longer than a quick project :D
So I have been at this little stationary engine for a little more then 200 hours! With help from folks from all over!


When I received this engine, it was truly a hunk of scrap, According to a fellow I come to consider my mentor ( Nathan K ), This is normal - normal. Considering this engine is from 1928 and the farmers that used them would have picked this up from the manf, or factory using a horse and buggy!



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A few thank you's!

John Conroy, for entertaining me with stories wile I / we used his very sexy milling machine! I seen the twinkle in his eyes when I asked for valve guide work and valve seat lapping! I appreciate your help and time!

Everett Falke, Endless armchair engineering / machining and lots of scrap metal and cast iron ( saved my butt with that clutch plate for the valve guides )

Nathan K, When I call he picks up the phone and talks my ear off regarding this and every thing else I ask - A walking stationary engine guru!

John. AKA Janger, Helped out with the wico EK mag capacitors, Much appreciated my friend!

Tom @ https://enginebarn.myshopify.com/ - for your small engine / stationary engine parts. If he doesn't have it, he will gladly direct you to some one who does, Arranged shipping to me from USA and assisted in every way possible, Over 35 emails worth, Hats off you Tom!

Bill @ https://enginads.com/starbolt/ An endless supply of parts for your ancient stationary engines. Honest and always willing to help!
When you call you get his direct residence!

Dave Reed, https://www.ringspacers.com/ for supplying the odd sized piston rings, spacers and WISDOM. Much appreciated!

Last but not least, shopdogsam - I have not had the pleasure of talking to him, but I watched every youtube video he had!
https://www.youtube.com/@shopdogsam/about - This guy is extraordinary, Simple as that!



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I have to the best of my abilities restored this engine to how it would of or should of ran when it was made. 1928 according to the serial number.

All rotating or sliding parts had to be either brazed and turned or milled down, or completely remade. Hardest part was getting dimensions from parts that were worn - A true guessing game.

Mid way through the project, I lost interest in documenting my steps. I ended up doing 6/8 + weeks worth of projects with out pictures !

I will let the pictures speak for them self's, as apposed to writing out a 5 page forum thread. Suffice to say no bolt was left untouched.
I am ready and willing to help any one who has a similar project. I also invite any one in the Edmonton area to come by for a viewing.

Any questions, or specifics, simply ask!

Thanks to all!



1928 IHC M 3 HP S/N BW24022
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Nice job! We had several of these on the farm growing up and none of them looked or ran as nicely as yours!
 
Brian H

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Hmmm. Different sounds for differnt folks !

Its ar about 500 rpm according to my laser tachometer.

There is a loud thud that correlates to the cylinder firing. You can faintly see the black smoke or puff every time it fires.

Thanks for posting.
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That is the most nostalgic sound. The other two that bring back many memories are the old two cylinder tractors and the sound of a steam engine working. I could listen to those all for hours!
 
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historicalarms

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I started my equipment running career on one of those 2 cylinder JD tractors, many hours to just work the home 1/4 ( the roto tiller i use for the garden now is only 1 ft narrower than the cultivator I pulled to do that 160 acres). Our tractor was gas but the closest neighbor we had had 2 diesel 2 cylinder tractors that used starting motors to get the big diesels running...i can still remember the sound of those starter engines growling away on a cold Alb. morning that the dense cold air carried all the way to our farm.
I'm also sitting here remembering the sound of the multitudes of pump jack motors in the visinity that could also be heard plainly in the cold air. those damn things would backfire once on every stroke of the sucker rod. They run at an idle for the down stroke but they loaded with fuel and then when the pull stroke started and the governors flew open, every one of them would backfire so it took prob 2 minutes to do a complete stroke so it was a steady "bang" in one direction or the other from the farm on a cold day.

Some of those pump jacks that i listened to as a kid are still pumping black gold at every stroke but the pump motors long replaced by electric silence.
 
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I have a 830 JD pup start sitting in my yard right now. BIL was going to take it to his acreage but never came for it. :rolleyes:
 
Brian H

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6.5 Fan said:
I have a 830 JD pup start sitting in my yard right now. BIL was going to take it to his acreage but never came for it. :rolleyes:
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We had one of those for our "workhorse". It had a pretty impressive amount of power and torque compared to the other smaller two cylinder JD's we had.
 
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