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Workplace Safety at work and in the home shop

Elektrishun

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There was a fair bit of workplace safety related discussion in another thread. Decided to start a dedicated thread to continue the discussion. If this isn't the right location, sorry.


Before I retired I was in a maintenance supervisor role. Myself and the other supervisors made workplace safety a priority. Even before becoming a supervisor I often told people I had 2 goals before I retired - retire on my own terms and with good health. Having good health meant avoiding a serious workplace accident. So far it appears to have worked out well for me.

A couple of the most noticeable safety changes that occurred in my trade as an electrician was in regards to "live work" and PPE. Went from standing next to my journeyman while he was tying a breaker into a live 480V panel with the only PPE between us being the leather gloves he was wearing to taking Workplace Electrical Safety classes, performing Job Safety Analysis, wearing properly rated PPE for the task, and "live work" becoming far less frequent.

As a maintenance supervisor and having staff perform work in older buildings, Asbestos Awareness training and testing became a major priority. Documenting everything we had tested was a priority, too. A real game changer for getting work done. There are a lot of opinions on test results and risk of exposure. When working in public buildings if the test is positive you follow the rules and abate it properly. That may mean a High Risk Abatement and spending a lot of $$$.

A few years back my wife ran into a former co-worker of my mine who worked at the same site as myself but started many years earlier. He told her he was diagnosed with mesothelioma and that the place we both worked at is where he was exposed to asbestos. Maybe. He worked at other places prior.

In my home shop I have tried to be equally safe. Some of the things I have improved on over the years:

- always wear eye protection. Woodworking, metal work, auto mechanics, etc. - I just always always have them on. Once, while at work, I was trimming a tiny corner of metal stud without safety glasses on. Cut the piece and then carried on with pulling electrical cable. Felt like I was sweating so I put my hand to my forehead. When I looked at my hand it was covered in blood. Unknown to me, that tiny fragment of metal shot up and buried itself in my forehead. That was the last time I worked without safety glasses. Safety glasses have saved my eyes from serious injury on a few occasions.

- working with harsh chemicals. When I was a lot younger I used to strip a lot of old wood furniture indoors. Wore gloves but no mask. That stripper worked great but not good for the lungs or brain. If the MSDS sheets call for it and I don't have a properly fitted half mask with the correct filter/cartridge, I ain't touching it. Recently seen a guy on a TV repair show using a chemical while holding what looked like an N95 mask over his face with the straps hanging down. Pointless and likely the wrong mask for the job. Getting fitted for a half mask is no longer in my future and therefore harsh chemicals that require one aren't either.

- gloves. In the past few years I have started wearing gloves more and more. In my home shop I have all kinds of gloves for different tasks. Really saves on the skin and makes some jobs a lot more pleasant.

- dust collection. I have an ambient air cleaner that I built with 2 types of filters, a Delta single stage collector for the table-saw and jointer, shop vacuums for small equipment, etc. For many years now I have been wearing masks when making dust. I used to do a lot of running that included entering local races. With running protecting my lungs became even more important.

- working on the home roof. Here's where I need to wise up. My house is a raised bungalow with a 4/12 pitch. Most people would feel pretty comfortable on a roof like that without fall restraint. I do, too. Nonetheless, I heard of a young worker falling off baker's scaffolding 6 feet high and passed away due to a head injury from the fall. When I went to trade school one of the instructors was in a wheel chair due to injury from falling off his home roof. A million stories can be told.

If nothing else, the one thing I learnt about safety, is that it constantly changes. You can't assume that what you currently know about working safely will apply to all situations. You're always learning and adjusting.

BTW, I have done my share of really stupid things over the years. Having a little luck helps but I wouldn't count on it.

Would like to read other members thoughts and stories on the subject.
 
One of my colateral duties in the USN was Safety Officer for a time in a shipyard environment. I had no responsibility for the yard workers (other than reporting unsafe acts to our contact), but had the responsibility for setting up training and stopping people from doing stupid things.

Later was AOIC (assistant Officer In Charge) of the Atlantic Fleet 600/1200 PSI Mobile Training Team: too many serious accidents had been occurring in steam-powered ships and the team was responsible for inspecting and providing guidance. Again mostly common sense stuff, but in several cases making sure that previously installed valves, flanges, etc. that were deemed acceptable were updated to more safe components. The Team reported to CINCLANT, usually via the chain of command, but in some extreme cases directly (one notable issue resulting in a Captain & Engineering Officer being relieved and the Team supervising the ship returning to home port).

In later life I worked with contractors, and occasionally managing, major new construction & renovation projects and always kept my eye out for unsafe acts and conditions.

I wear safety glasses in the shop, plus a face shield, hearing protection and mask when needed. I also protect my hands with close-fitting Nitrile gloves or leather gloves when using hand tools.

Unfortunately, accidents do happen, such as my recent fall, but I was stupidly rushing at the time (I've finally leaned to slow down).
 
This is something I’ve tried to improve at my work. When I started there, they certainly had safety glasses and foam earplugs around, but if you wanted anything different, you were on your own. I think the feeling was they were providing sufficient protection, anyone who wanted more was a bit ‘fancy’.

After getting debris in my eye a few times while wearing the Uline safety glasses provided, I was fed up. Too big a gap between my cheek and the bottom of the glasses. Ordered a pair of 3M ones. Huge improvement. In fairness to my work, there were face shields around, but I don’t wear those on my head all day long.

So one tip: Try different glasses. They’re different shapes, like faces.

On sound levels:

I ordered a Coilhose Typhoon blow gun from KBC a few months ago. I was fed up with the cheaper Coilhose guns leaking after a few months, and figured we’d try something different. Everyone likes it, except… I’m pretty sure it’s making us deaf. Checked it with a sound level metre app on my phone. 110db. :(

Ordered an ‘inline regulator’ with the next order (it’s just an aluminum ball valve with a knurled knob). Plumbed that in at the gun end. Dialed the pressure down to ~70%, huge improvement, subjectively.

Asked a coworker what he thought of it the next day. ‘It’s great, thanks!’

He’d dialed it right back to 100%. :|

Keep chipping away, I guess.
 
I'm ignorant when it comes to the various forms of asbestos and their related risk factors, IIRC some forms are much worse than others. The father of one of my buddies owned a brake shop for about 30 years, constantly using compressed air (zero PPE) to blow the asbestos out of the drums etc when they did brake jobs, clouds of air born particles all the time. I figured it would catch up with him but he retired 35 years ago and he is doing great, still golfing. I guess some people are just bulletproof.
 
I'm ignorant when it comes to the various forms of asbestos and their related risk factors, IIRC some forms are much worse than others. The father of one of my buddies owned a brake shop for about 30 years, constantly using compressed air (zero PPE) to blow the asbestos out of the drums etc when they did brake jobs, clouds of air born particles all the time. I figured it would catch up with him but he retired 35 years ago and he is doing great, still golfing. I guess some people are just bulletproof.
Broadly (I did the course, but it doesn't come up often enough that it's easy to recall) there's friable (falls apart into fine, readily airborne fragments if you touch/mash/play football with it) and non-friable (hard chunks that you'd have to take a grinder etc. to to loft bits into the air). There's more to it than that, but if you run into stuff that looks like fiberglass insulation but isn't, that's the bad one.
 
So who has a fire extinguisher in their shop ?
Yep!

I lease a commercial unit, already finished when I moved in about ten years ago. Landlord had mounted one by the door and one at the top of the mezzanine stairs (both ABC), plus an A on the floor in the kitchen. I added an ABC by the door in the back room, where I do any hot work.
 
So who has a fire extinguisher in their shop ?
Yes. 20 pound ABC extinguisher. I do a fair bit of welding & grinding...

I have a question for people who wear corrective eye glasses. What works for you for eye protection? I've tried goggles and safety glasses that fit over my prescription glasses. Between glasses fogging up or sweat dripping onto the lenses, I am often flying almost blind.

And now with my near vision going to crap, I find it even more difficult to work with safety glasses in addition to corrective (progressive) lenses.

Does anyone have a solution that actually works?

I did get my self a pair of prescription safety glasses, but I do quite a bit of welding, cutting and grinding. It isn't long before the plastic lenses are so marked up they're almost useless. (I know, good indication that I SHOULD be wearing safety glasses, but it could get very costly very quickly).

Maybe the solution is a face shield, but I have yet to find a source for a good quality one. The ones I've found are basically junk.
 
I use the prescription safety glasses from Zenni (cheap) and have 5 or 6 cheap face shields from PA at various stations in the shop, saw, grinder, lathe, mill, other grinder, drill press. I keep a stack of replacement lenses for the face shields in the drawer and change them frequently. The nice thing about being able to see clearly and safely in the shop is that it can also save your fingers.
 
Hmm i need to buy some, never replaced the ones we used last winter when the tractor burned up.
If you claimed insurance on the tractor fire it would probably include the cost of the extinguishers as well. I used up 4 or 5 20 lb extinguishers helping a neighbour put out his combine a few years ago and they were covered.
 
Well I must confess, sorta. I have one of the little ones on my oxy cart in the outer shop. But in penance I just ordered 2, a 20 pounder for the shop and a 5 pounder for the house. Ironically when our house did burn down two extinguishers went up in flames as there was no one home to use them.
 
So who has a fire extinguisher in their shop ?

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To the left of the extinguisher is the man door entrance to my shop. Besides the extinguisher, I have a First Aid kit, and a small bottle of eye wash. Be sure to check the expiry on the eye wash.
 
I like big aviator style safety glasses as they cover not just my eyes but part of my face . They have side shields . Mine are progressive bifocals . I have wore work glasses now for thirty some years. I won't go into my workshop without them on. When I worked our company got a good deal on them. I still use the frames. If you shop around, you can get a deal.

I have fire extinguisher by the door, but I try to weld, grind, and certainly cut outdoors . In the winter I may have to put on a shirt jac.
 
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