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Small Facemill
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I am virtually certain I have a 3/4 tool that uses these inserts Ken. I'll check later today. It is a Wierd looking duck though..... Technically it's a drill, but I have milled with it just fine.
Yes. That's why I suggested asking Accusize if they would let you drill out the pocket without affecting returnability. You and Accusize both benefit from knowing if that works. You gain knowledge all of us could benefit from, and accusize gets Ammo to use with their suppliers to get a better product for everyone.
While we are discussing inserts, does anyone here have a decent set of rules for determining if the part number is ISO or ANSI?
I know that 3 numbers is almost always ANSI, and 4 or more is almost always ISO. The keywords above is "Almost Always".
It's a RPIA to have to do a Google search on the equivalents.
I know that 3 numbers is almost always ANSI, and 4 or more is almost always ISO. The keywords above is "Almost Always".
It's a RPIA to have to do a Google search on the equivalents.
ChazzC
Ultra Member
Get the David P. Best book (it's on my wishlist):
https://a.co/d/daT7zAy
Or the handy chart I attached (one of many available, but I like this one because it's simple).
MrWhoopee
Well-Known Member
I have several milling cutters that use the APKT1135 inserts, starting at 10mm and up to 30mm. They get used a lot, especially the 20 and 25 mm. I also have a 40mm that uses the APKT1604 inserts, but by the time I get to that size I prefer to use my 50mm facemill that uses the SEKT/SEHT inserts unless I need a square shoulder. The higher rake angle of the SEKT inserts makes them cut more freely, less of a beating on everything. Looking for a 25-40 mm cutter that uses the SEKT. I know Shars has them, just looking for a better deal.
I bought a lot of the cutters mentioned by @ChazzC that use the TPG inserts when was in the business. I bought them because we already used the TPG inserts for the lathes and the cutters were pretty cheap, especially in sets. Having little/no top rake, the cutting action is more brute force than shear. I also had to keep a stock of the clamp screws, which are prone to breaking.
I bought a lot of the cutters mentioned by @ChazzC that use the TPG inserts when was in the business. I bought them because we already used the TPG inserts for the lathes and the cutters were pretty cheap, especially in sets. Having little/no top rake, the cutting action is more brute force than shear. I also had to keep a stock of the clamp screws, which are prone to breaking.
It's gunna be on your wish list a very long time......
At 5K US, I'm not interested!
But joking aside, I have the newer version which I got for 25$ beaver bucks. I agree that it's a good book and I learned a lot from it. But it doesn't answer the simple question I asked above.
It only explains both standards. But doesn't give you any rules about how to know which is which other than a few generalities I already knew.
For, example, I know that 432 is ANSI, and I know that 160404 is ISO. But when you add in a decimal or 4 digits instead of 3 or 6, how do you know which one it is when you are not familiar with it?
ChazzC
Ultra Member
That I can't help you with: I usually search based on the "size," then use the chart to see what the trailing numbers mean.
Ya, that's sorta what I do too. If you plug a known part number into Google it will usually lead to something in one or the other system.
I was just hoping somebody on here has some handy rules of thumb for that.