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New printer

jcdammeyer

jcdammeyer

John
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HandsOnKatie convinced me that this printer would be a good idea. And of course with Black Friday sales I couldn't resist.

Wow! Although there are some things I don't like. Like cloud access. Wow! Seeing it change from white filament to special support filament and then back is amazing. And then the end result with a super smooth finish compared to the old support method... Wow!

And fast. My SOVOL has a bigger bed but has to whip the print around on the Y axis like my 8 year old printer. This one just raises and lowers the print. The surfaces are really smooth.

It's also way noisier than the SOVOL but does the same print 1.5 to 2x as fast with a smoother wall.
 
jcdammeyer said:
Although there are some things I don't like. Like cloud access.
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Can you expand on this (I'm pretty 3DP illiterate). Do you mean access just to do a behind the scenes SR# handshake in order to run any print job? Or maybe just app install/update related? Or confined to certain features like I see people monitoring / controlling print jobs with their cell phone? I have to ask these dumb questions because 'Cloud' really has become a bastardized buzz word especially when the Marketing department gets involved LOL.
 
The speed of the newer tech printers are making all the older ones obsolete. For my cosplay armor on my cr30 I can print long pieces all at once. In like 40 plus hours. Friends new Bambi lab he had to print 4 pieces and glue together, all together 12 hours print time. So productivity is 3 times better than mine. I’m looking at selling some or all of my older printers and buy one of the new gen printers.
 
jcdammeyer said:
HandsOnKatie convinced me that this printer would be a good idea. And of course with Black Friday sales I couldn't resist.

Wow! Although there are some things I don't like. Like cloud access. Wow! Seeing it change from white filament to special support filament and then back is amazing. And then the end result with a super smooth finish compared to the old support method... Wow!

And fast. My SOVOL has a bigger bed but has to whip the print around on the Y axis like my 8 year old printer. This one just raises and lowers the print. The surfaces are really smooth.

It's also way noisier than the SOVOL but does the same print 1.5 to 2x as fast with a smoother wall.
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yeah I'd love this printer.

social media is an enabler
 
Doggggboy said:
I'm pretty sure the fulfilment center is in Vancouver.
Wouldn't be a very long wait if you....well, you know....
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My Sovol SV06 runs Klipper so it's already fast. Is is as fast as a Bambu? Nope. Is is good enough? Works for me.
I'd like the multi filament but not willing to shell out for that.
 
PeterT said:
Can you expand on this (I'm pretty 3DP illiterate). Do you mean access just to do a behind the scenes SR# handshake in order to run any print job? Or maybe just app install/update related? Or confined to certain features like I see people monitoring / controlling print jobs with their cell phone? I have to ask these dumb questions because 'Cloud' really has become a bastardized buzz word especially when the Marketing department gets involved LOL.
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It's possible to use the local network but by default the file goes up to the cloud and then back down to the printer. I think video does the same thing. There is a switch that I haven't tripped that leaves the cloud out. But like my Blink Camera I think that comes at a cost of something not being available. At the moment I've not looked further.
 
DavidR8 said:
My Sovol SV06 runs Klipper so it's already fast. Is is as fast as a Bambu? Nope. Is is good enough? Works for me.
I'd like the multi filament but not willing to shell out for that.
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I'm still running the older slicer software on the SOVOL with Octoprint which I really like. But the ORCA software looks to be pretty well the same as the Bambu so I may just splurge for the new controller so I can add Klipper to the SOVOL to speed it up.

However, what I've noticed printing all these Herbus parts in both printers is that the Bambu creates a much nicer vertical surface. I believe that's because of the lack of printed product motion other than downward. The SOVOL and my other old printer fling the part around and I think the shaking helps make the surfaces rougher.

My POS Delta printer was supposed to solve that along with having two nozzles and two filament drive motors but the mechanics was so bad... it never really worked right. Then I upgraded to a cape for the Beaglebone Black along with a touch screen. Also garbage it turned out so I rewired it back to original. Maybe one day I'll add all the parts I was going to add to make it stiffer. But that would be purely hobby that has no point other than to do something.
 
The biggest advantage of the multiple spools is how easy it handles support. For example:

The two cavities are different depths. As it builds up the part it also builds up the support area but not quite touching the part. When there's about 0.3mm or so of material above the cavity area it changes filament to the PLA Support filament which doesn't stick to PLA. It then runs two layers of that inside the cavity which makes it now even with the rest of the print. Switches back to PLA and continues until it's time to do the deeper cavity. Same deal. Swap filament, print the separation layers, swap back and finish printing.

Never seen such a nice supported surface.

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If I wasn’t throwing all kinds of cash at the mill conversion then it could be in the cards. Plus I just shelled out $200 on a new vfd for the router because the POS YL vfd lost all its settings again.
Maybe if I get a Christmas bonus :)
 
jcdammeyer said:
The biggest advantage of the multiple spools is how easy it handles support. For example:

The two cavities are different depths. As it builds up the part it also builds up the support area but not quite touching the part. When there's about 0.3mm or so of material above the cavity area it changes filament to the PLA Support filament which doesn't stick to PLA. It then runs two layers of that inside the cavity which makes it now even with the rest of the print. Switches back to PLA and continues until it's time to do the deeper cavity. Same deal. Swap filament, print the separation layers, swap back and finish printing.

Never seen such a nice supported surface.
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One thing I don't understand is why the support filament bubbled up (or gobbed) in a couple of places. Those bumps were reflected in the layers laid on top of it.

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Here it looks like the PLA under where the support will go has perhaps also a bit of a glitch.
SupportFilamentLaydown.jpg
 
DavidR8 said:
I'd like the multi filament but not willing to shell out for that.
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I have the multi filament head for my Purse MK3S+ (I need a decoder ring to know what that means) mostly assembled but I haven't had the project in front of me yet that needs the level of Rube Goldberg machine that thing is. I'm just not patient enough to get it sorted out.
 
I totally get that. The user interface itself is complicated enough and doesn't press my buttons the way that Octoprint does. And unfortunately Octoprint doesn't talk to the Bambu as the Bambu is only WiFi (might have BluTooth too) but I think the protocol like all closed systems is secret.

Normally I'd never buy something like this but I'm also kind of tired of always having to 'tweak' something to get it working. I'm printing 4 plant pots here. Using non-Bambu PLA. The support reel in position 3 was identified as SupportPLA from the little micro-something or other in the reel.

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The current list of filaments which doesn't match reality is from some other .3mf file that I loaded. Haven't figured out yet how to get rid of that information and don't want to do it while I'm printing.

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I'm a complete newbie with this system. So I know I'm going to screw up a lot.
 
jcdammeyer said:
It's possible to use the local network but by default the file goes up to the cloud and then back down to the printer. I think video does the same thing. There is a switch that I haven't tripped that leaves the cloud out. But like my Blink Camera I think that comes at a cost of something not being available. At the moment I've not looked further.
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That's what I thought you were getting at. Well that seems a bit invasive, sheesh.
 
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