DPittman
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I'm just a bit slower than the average turtle.....but I eventually get there...
I think you are pointing out that AI is presented to have all the answers for us.
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I think you are pointing out that AI is presented to have all the answers for us.
But how can you trust it, if it gives opinions, and not facts?
Or is that the goal to make it more human, by having opinions?
DPittman
Ultra Member
Exactly and not just opinions but factually incorrect information!
If someone is trying to make it more human by giving it opinions, I say GIVE IT UP!, I want FACTS to help me decipher thru all the fact-less opinions out there.
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like Elvis, Charlie Kirk is apparently alive and well. Not sure if, like Elvis, he is living in Tweed Ontario, but CoPilot on the one hand tells me he was assassinated and yet still insists he is also alive 🙂
CoPilot/ChatGTP do much better with coding and related design topics. No doubt it doesn't want to get into politics, as per our forum rules. 🙂 🙂
CoPilot/ChatGTP do much better with coding and related design topics. No doubt it doesn't want to get into politics, as per our forum rules. 🙂 🙂
Yup. That was tongue-in-cheek because I figure folks here can spot the BS in those overpomising ads...
...but in this case, sometimes, it is hard to spot the line between what's "outside" and "inside" the limits, and if we really can discern whether it's a hammer or screwdriver.
Opinions become facts too readily... and that is the consequence, whether intended or not.
Overall, I'm generally inclined to be even less trusting when a company overpromises the moon to this degree with a product. A hammer that ALSO talks to and pleases my wife, you say???
I wish we had NPR radio stations in Canada. There was an incident in Minnesota a couple weeks ago, and two hosts were discussing it neutrally. They disagreed on a few things, asked the other side to explain their position, then moved on. I felt they did a good job anyway, part of it is their laws are different, so I'm learning.
It's not always a debate style, I've listened to a couple hours of hosts discussing MN Boundary Park rescue crews and operations. I learned all about the battle of Baltimore one day, and the origin of their anthem. You never know what's next but it's always better than gospel music for hours 🙄
The question I asked was: "Was Charlie Cook Assasinated or was it just a hoax?"
Gemini - Says he was assassinated and gives details including date, location, assassin, motive, weapon, and court status. When asked if it's a hoax, it said absolutely not but the web was flooded by hoax stories made up to direct the narrative in their favour.
Perplexity - same as gemini
Claude - has no information. When asked why not, it simply said the media is unreliable and the media sources it has access to are not reliable.
Grok - says he was Assasinated and that hoaxes were everywhere because people are gullible and fringe elements love to exploit opportunities like this.
ChatGPT - now cones in flavours. The professional version was similar to gemini and perplexity.
Co-Pilot - said it was a hoax. And proceeded to give many reasons why people incorrectly believe it actually happened. When I asked why he hasn't been seen in public, it said that he had been assassinated! When I asked it why the two answers differed, it explained that it's first answer was based on the frequency of reports without checking their validity. It's second answer was based on probing only credible sources and ignored sources with a dubious history.
DPittman
Ultra Member
Very interesting. I've only played with Gemini and ChatGPT. I have found that ChatGPT has given me answers that I dis not agree with and eventually if I pushed hard enough I got answers that I felt were much better and correct. A recent example was a query I made regarding "garage ready" freezers. Initially ChatGPT basically regurgitated all the marketing crap that the companies put out about the product. After several further inquiries and push back it got better and admitted its first response were poor.
Elektrishun
Ultra Member
I will definitely take you up on that offer once I hit the proverbial wall.
I just made a huge leap forward in progress....I think. I have been treating this AliX display as having a ILI9341V chip. Then I read online that quite often the overseas generic looking displays either fail to identify the true chip model or mislead intentionally for reasons unknown. I now believe that this display has a ST7789 chip. With the correct library I currently have a graphics test working, orientated correctly, and using the full 320x240 screen.
What really misled me was that the ILI9341 library always used 240x240 of the 320x240 screen but the TFT_eSPI library worked perfectly (along with other graphics libraries). So I bounced between the two libraries for the longest time thinking it was a simple misconfiguration issue in the ILI9341 library.
I chalk up the hours spent as my education fee for figuring these displays out as this is the second variation I have fumbled with. I have a third model on the back burner waiting to frustrate me all over again.🙂
Thank again for the offer, always appreciated!
historicalarms
Ultra Member
This topic was of very little interest to me, I do use AI very limited, ask for a weather update once or twice a month or ask who's alive or dead after watching an old movie....
But now I have a whole new interest reason, My Daughter just informed us that she has been given a promotion at work. She works for a British Insurance company that is second only to Lloyds in size I think.
Her old title was VP of World Operations ( she was second in command of integrating their various operations throughout the world ) ...but now they will be paying her a whole $shitload of money to head up something called "World Insurance Exposure & Risk Task Force for I.T. & A.I."....glad its her and not me after reading just todays postings on here!!!
But now I have a whole new interest reason, My Daughter just informed us that she has been given a promotion at work. She works for a British Insurance company that is second only to Lloyds in size I think.
Her old title was VP of World Operations ( she was second in command of integrating their various operations throughout the world ) ...but now they will be paying her a whole $shitload of money to head up something called "World Insurance Exposure & Risk Task Force for I.T. & A.I."....glad its her and not me after reading just todays postings on here!!!
Respectfully - Charlie Kirk assassination/death/killing is highly politicized item , along with many other things that are happening in modern history - there are more emotions and speculations than factual, There is no unbiased input or pure facts. Media is going to left or right, depends who owns the media. And AI just following (collating) data that is most available in media - AI has no access to police, FBI, NSA, or whatever data . I would never ask AI about that - I am sticking to the strictly professional (technical and technological ) exchange with AI.
Elektrishun
Ultra Member
I have read several reviews regarding AI coding editors where programmers have mixed opinions. Coming from not even a novice programmer, the comments are in line with what I have been finding - it's a useful tool once you understand it's limitations. I now use it to help with specific pieces of code and supply it with files in advance of my questions to reference from. I will often supply it's own previous "detailed account of what I need to do" for reference to make sure it doesn't deviate from the direction it was originally taking me.
To me AI would be like working with an absent-minded professor. Keep it on task or it will shuffle off in some other direction wondering where it left it's keys. My part in the problem is that I don't really comprehend the task either. Blind leading the blind.
To me AI would be like working with an absent-minded professor. Keep it on task or it will shuffle off in some other direction wondering where it left it's keys. My part in the problem is that I don't really comprehend the task either. Blind leading the blind.
Matt-Aburg
Ultra Member
I use ChatGTP everyday. It helps me analysis medical reports, write legal documents, business plans , website, engineering suggestions.. it is the most amazing tool .. here is my website so far.. (yes I rebranded) entirely html, with a way of uploading 200mb files.. so sweet.
www.protoscan3d.com
ProtoScan3D | High-Precision 3D Scanning & Printing
ProtoScan3D offers expert 3D scanning, printing, and modeling services for industrial, automotive, and custom projects.
Elektrishun
Ultra Member
Anyone look into or hear about OpenClaw AI?
Listening to some discussion about this latest "next big thing" in AI right now.
www.getopenclaw.ai
Listening to some discussion about this latest "next big thing" in AI right now.
OpenClaw vs Other AI Assistants
Detailed comparisons: OpenClaw vs ChatGPT, Claude, Siri, Alexa, Gemini, and more. Feature tables, pricing, and recommendations.
Dan Dubeau
Ultra Member
I still have yet to find out how to integrate AI into my life. Nor A1 (I know how to cook a steak). Sure for coding applications I could implement it, but for daily life? My life ain't that complicated I need computer intervention.....
Next time you are frustrated because you can't seem to find the search item you want on Chrome or Bing or Firefox or whatever, try using Gemini instead. If nothing else I'm pretty sure that you will have found a better way to search for stuff. Just use plain English and don't worry about the syntax for the search terms.
AI is not a miracle, but once you get to understand the limitations, it's a pretty good tool.
At the moment I'm doing python web hooks to synch data between a contact management system and an ERP system all on a cloud server....... all set up by me with Chat's help and something I am almost completely unqualified to do. I can understand the database structure and what I want to accomplish but will never have the time to because proficient at the syntax and coding to make it do what i want it to ..... that is where chat comes in. It is a frustrating mess of BS and failure so much of the time .... but its still letting me do things that would impossible with my current skill set.
Dan Dubeau
Ultra Member
That's my big problem with coding. I can understand and follow along with the logic and structure of it, but will never remember the syntax and wording in a million years of trying. I can edit existing code to make changes and follow along, but from scratch? no way. But therein lies the problem again, I don't really DO any electronic or coding projects. Not for lack of want (I have a lot of things I'd like to build), but more for time and priority. One of these days (hopefully soon) I'll run out of things to make FOR the shop, and start making stuff IN the shop..
Now I gotta go back out and remeasure some machines to see about a different layout I thought about on the drive in this morning. Maybe I can just drag all the models into a chat window and AI can reorganize them for me in the most efficient way?
Now I gotta go back out and remeasure some machines to see about a different layout I thought about on the drive in this morning. Maybe I can just drag all the models into a chat window and AI can reorganize them for me in the most efficient way?