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Wtb schaublin 135 or 150
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TorontoBuilder
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location? what distance are you willing to ship it from?
I was kind of curious about overseas shipping. Not to detract from your post but can you throw some of the price + weight ballpark $ figures? At least you are on the right end of Canada coming off the boat. It would be another additive journey on top to the prairies.
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Back when I'd been considering buying a chipmaster in the UK I got very reasonable quotes to ship from London to Montreal, well under $1000 for two lathes in fact.
However, crating, transport and storage of the lathes while trying to organize the logistics of shipping more than one used lathe became untenable.
There were only about 3500 of these lathes produced, but I'd say prospects are fair for finding a lathe in the US rust belt or eastern Canada but you may not have a lot of choice condition wise, how bad is the one you're aware of?
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They do sell in you area:
I expect today one in good condition would be around 20,000 CAD+
Here are listings for sale (including BC) around the world:
It will be interesting to see what this goes for considering what they wanted for the ebay one earlier this year.
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I expect today one in good condition would be around 20,000 CAD+
Here are listings for sale (including BC) around the world:
Might I back up a little and ask why does the OP want specifically a Schaublin. Had he previously used one? Just wondering as there are several lathes of equal quality that are more common in North America and are likely to have far greater spare parts availability. Probably less expensive too. Monarch 10EE comes immediately to mind.
If the guy has a little more space, and can live with slightly less accuracy the DS&G that McGyver posted would be a far more versatile option. (Showing my bias here having spent a bunch of time on one)
If the guy has a little more space, and can live with slightly less accuracy the DS&G that McGyver posted would be a far more versatile option. (Showing my bias here having spent a bunch of time on one)
Agreed, there are a number of machines in the tool room lathe category that would deliver (with it's geared head and larger size I'd don't put the DSG in the same category,but they did make a tool room plain bearing type 17 few lathes could rival). A 10ee, HLV, Holbrook Minor, B&S 1024 and so on. Condition, tooling and finding one are the biggest factors or at least what would steer me. A creampuff loaded HLV would be pass by with a 15- 20,000+ budget. Still, Having had several Swiss machines apart and done some reconditioning .... it's easy to fall in love them 
. The engineering mantra is good enough is good enough..... the Swiss machine manufacturers mantra would be more like make it as good as you possibly can.
. The engineering mantra is good enough is good enough..... the Swiss machine manufacturers mantra would be more like make it as good as you possibly can.Funny enough, I’ve run a DS&G 17T. Ex British army that wound up for sale in my province at a tree spade manufacturer. Not kidding- some stories are just too bizarre to make up. I didn’t buy it for a variety of reasons.
Doubt I’d buy a plain bearing DS&G that has had multiple owners. Call me chicken.
The DS&G I’ve had the most time on was at college, a 13-42. Never saw the inside of headstock, but imagine it had helical gears as was quiet and smooth.
I might add a good condition CVA to the OP’s list, but that would be shooting myself in the foot. Still hankering for one…
Doubt I’d buy a plain bearing DS&G that has had multiple owners. Call me chicken.
The DS&G I’ve had the most time on was at college, a 13-42. Never saw the inside of headstock, but imagine it had helical gears as was quiet and smooth.
I might add a good condition CVA to the OP’s list, but that would be shooting myself in the foot. Still hankering for one…
They do sell in you area:
It will be interesting to see what this goes for considering what they wanted for the ebay one earlier this year.
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I expect today one in good condition would be around 20,000 CAD+
Here are listings for sale (including BC) around the world:
wowowowow that's a big number. surprising to me since the only two big schaublins I've seen on kijiji were listed for what I thought were not insane prices and both took months to sell (a 160 in quebec for 7500$ in feb of 2024 and a 135 in ontario for 5000$ in 2023)...
I guess the kicker is that you're not only looking for a big schaublin in Canada (very rare),, you're looking for one in good condition... it's so rare to find machine tools here that don't look like they were used by hammer-wielding apes or stored in the basement of the Titanic
The Canadian Forces ended up with several 150's, back in the early 1980's or thereabouts. I had the pleasure of using one of them, in my last posting at Cold Lake Alberta. As far as I know, that one is still being used. If a 150 ever lists in Cold Lake, be aware that the servo-motor that is supposed to operate the fast traverse of the carriage, is dead and missing. Kinda doubt you will find one just laying around...
Coupla years back, one was listed on CADC, out in Ontario, out of a National Research Council lab, IIRC, I was about $200 short of the winning bid...
It was still all sealed bids at that time, rather than Auction as it has become. So close, but...so far away! LOL! By memory, that one went for a bit under $6K, so paying a company to rig it and truck it, was still going to make it a pretty good buy, at the price I bid, I figured.
Last one other than the CADC one I saw listed, was by Don, the site owner at Practicalmachinist.com. It was nice, but priced accordingly, just under $100K USD! Procyon Machine on ebay, IIRC.
One dealer that posts over there (PM), is in Holland, and may have a better chance of having one in stock, as well as being quite aware of the relative shipping costs. Username is Peter, or Peter from Holland, IIRC. edit to add: https://veltmanmachines.com/#lathes-link shows a 135 in stock, at 17,500 Euro.
Given the relative lack of Schaublins around, might be an idea to look into some of their peers, stuff like the Weiler comes to mind.
Coupla years back, one was listed on CADC, out in Ontario, out of a National Research Council lab, IIRC, I was about $200 short of the winning bid...
It was still all sealed bids at that time, rather than Auction as it has become. So close, but...so far away! LOL! By memory, that one went for a bit under $6K, so paying a company to rig it and truck it, was still going to make it a pretty good buy, at the price I bid, I figured.Last one other than the CADC one I saw listed, was by Don, the site owner at Practicalmachinist.com. It was nice, but priced accordingly, just under $100K USD! Procyon Machine on ebay, IIRC.
One dealer that posts over there (PM), is in Holland, and may have a better chance of having one in stock, as well as being quite aware of the relative shipping costs. Username is Peter, or Peter from Holland, IIRC. edit to add: https://veltmanmachines.com/#lathes-link shows a 135 in stock, at 17,500 Euro.
Given the relative lack of Schaublins around, might be an idea to look into some of their peers, stuff like the Weiler comes to mind.
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Not a 160, those are a very different beast than the 135 and 150, which are essentially built on the same base castings.
Definitely a 150. A few years before covidiocy started, too. Had the buyer comment to me over on the PM site at the time, after I posted about the sale, after it was over and done with.