Rethinking using the Thumb’s up button!

[Darren]

I took my <1 year old Son to a farm auction one time and bidding was slow at the end of the day. He was in his stroller, and playing with something. They were working their way down to a few bucks to get a first bid on a large selection of old vee belts, and next thing I knew the auctioneer said "SOLD to the young man in the front row for $2". Being that I was the only one under 60 in a group of about 5 guys I looked around as he laughed and said, "Dan, your Son raised his bottle, enjoy the belts " That was 10 years ago, and they still hang in the same spot in the barn, and I don't think I've used a single one of them lol.

A week or so ago, Him and I were driving back from baseball, taking the backroads, and drove past that farm and I told him that story. He said "I didn't know those were all mine" (like he inherited some rare baseball cards or something of value). I said give me $2 and you can have them .

I did get a $5 working cement mixer at that auction, and a bunch of other cheap goodies. I miss those days.

When my son was two years old, we were laying in my bed watching his tv shows, as I was recovering from back surgery. I had been browsing ebay on my laptop. I set it down and got up to go get a coffee and when I came back I found out that I was the owner of a 2hp electric motor that he somehow bid on. I hadn't been looking for motors. I got a good deal though, around 35 bucks I think. I eventually found a use for it and was glad to have it.

 

[architect]

Thumbs up or verbal okays also count as a "go" on construction sites, especially if schedule is flying as it always is. We always want things to go down on writing/email but that's often after the fact in case the fingers start pointing.

 

[trevj]

The whole judgement decision can be found online, and there is a history between the two parties that WAS taken in to careful consideration by the Judge, where previous (and uncontested) dealings were concluded between the two parties, on as little acknowledgement.

 

[Former Member]

Unfortunately, it sets precedence in our legal system, which is why it our legal system is so screwed up and only getting worse.

 

[Chicken lights]

I don't understand how our legal system is allowed to operate outside the framework of our charter of rights

But I also don't understand how our charter of rights seems to be flexible

And I think that's crossed the line and I'm going to quit while I'm not on the banned wagon

 

[DPittman]

And just to make sure previous posts are kept in perspective and not blown out of proportion....
I think the damn Liberals, UCP, NDP and every other politcal organization along with the environmentalists, religious, atheists, males, females, trans, lqqbt, left and right, black, white, corporations and mainstream media are all part of bloody conspiracy to take control of world economy in order to make us all slaves. I sincerely apologize to any group that may have been offended by not being included in my list and also deeply apologize to those may have equally felt offended by being included in my list.

 

[trevj]

And just to make sure previous posts are kept in perspective and not blown out of proportion....
I think the damn Liberals, UCP, NDP and every other politcal organization along with the environmentalists, religious, atheists, males, females, trans, lqqbt, left and right, black, white, corporations and mainstream media are all part of bloody conspiracy to take control of world economy in order to make us all slaves. I sincerely apologize to any group that may have been offended by not being included in my list and also deeply apologize to those may have equally felt offended by being included in my list.

While I appreciate that there may be a huge group with a carefully orchestrated plan to do us all over, I rather feel that it is more likely to be stupidity and incompetence, than an actual malicious plan with forethought, that is causing most of the troubles in today's world.

 

[whydontu]

It’s 21* C and sunny, there’s a marvellous breeze coming up off the ocean. I just walked through Steveston Village to go buy good guality milk and fresh vegetables. Had a nice chat with a young fellow installing our new fences, he’s proud to be working and is two weeks away from his first year of being clean and sober.
My dog is spending today at doggy daycare, because I can afford to spend a bit of money making sure she’s happy and gets to play with other dogs.
My family is doing well, son #1 is just finishing up a contract on a $1.5m farmhouse renovation, son #2‘s landscaping business is flourishing, daughter #1 is having a break before her next movie shoot, daughter #2 is doing lots of hiking to get in shape for her upcoming trip to climb Mt. Kilimanjaro.
SWMBO is at the gym, then she’s going out to lunch with her SIL.
I’m retired, might go muck about later today on my patent prototype. All of my needs are met, most of my wants, and my health is good. I have the unearned privilege of living in Paradise.
So now I know that using a thumbs-up emoji can be considered acceptance of a contract? Good to know, might be useful in the future.

 

[trevj]

It’s 21* C and sunny, there’s a marvellous breeze coming up off the ocean. I just walked through Steveston Village to go buy good guality milk and fresh vegetables. Had a nice chat with a young fellow installing our new fences, he’s proud to be working and is two weeks away from his first year of being clean and sober.
My dog is spending today at doggy daycare, because I can afford to spend a bit of money making sure she’s happy and gets to play with other dogs.
My family is doing well, son #1 is just finishing up a contract on a $1.5m farmhouse renovation, son #2‘s landscaping business is flourishing, daughter #1 is having a break before her next movie shoot, daughter #2 is doing lots of hiking to get in shape for her upcoming trip to climb Mt. Kilimanjaro.
SWMBO is at the gym, then she’s going out to lunch with her SIL.
I’m retired, might go muck about later today on my patent prototype. All of my needs are met, most of my wants, and my health is good. I have the unearned privilege of living in Paradise.
So now I know that using a thumbs-up emoji can be considered acceptance of a contract? Good to know, might be useful in the future.

Careful man! Talk like that'll get you, and your whole family, labelled as a part of the Radical Right! LOL!

I was forced into retirement about ten years ago. Y'know, I really miss having scheduled breaks!

As for the emoji, the ruling actually details that these two had been doing deals with as little communication as that for some period, before the guy who gave the other the 'thumbs up', decided to screw his business associate on a deal, so I figure, fair enough. I doubt it does ANYTHING in the way of Contract Law, other than to remind folks that when they make a deal, they should probably go through with it.

 

[Former Member]

While I appreciate that there may be a huge group with a carefully orchestrated plan to do us all over, I rather feel that it is more likely to be stupidity and incompetence, than an actual malicious plan with forethought, that is causing most of the troubles in today's world.

Stupidity and incompetence can't be that well thought out by accident can it???

 

[Former Member]

Careful man! Talk like that'll get you, and your whole family, labelled as a part of the Radical Right! LOL!

I was forced into retirement about ten years ago. Y'know, I really miss having scheduled breaks!

As for the emoji, the ruling actually details that these two had been doing deals with as little communication as that for some period, before the guy who gave the other the 'thumbs up', decided to screw his business associate on a deal, so I figure, fair enough. I doubt it does ANYTHING in the way of Contract Law, other than to remind folks that when they make a deal, they should probably go through with it.

Unfortunately it does change things even if it was not intended too. Sarcasm as a response is in danger. Think of "Sure" as in Sure lets do this VS Sure you gotta be F'ing kidding me!

 

[Mcgyver]

other than to remind folks that when they make a deal, they should probably go through with it.

As is needed.

Perhaps a way the internet as changed the social fabric for the worse. Likely most of us grew up believing reputation and credibility were important, achieved by being solid with your dealings and doing what you said you would do. That is still very true for commercial guys, people who make deals all the time for their livelihood, however compare that to typical citizen as see via kijiji behaviour.

I can't count the number of times offers were made and I accepted only to never hear from them again. Or I'll be there at 10, and after I've altered my day to suit, they don't show....which is also an agreement or commitment broken. It's a mentality lacking consideration for your other people. Someone who'll break their commitment to another with out a care for them? Is sociapath too strong? Its kind of the definition of the work, an endempic of low stakes sociopathers? I just think of them as low lifes and try to avoid them. In turn i become harsher toward others and think less of the masses which creates further distancing. Maybe that sounds too dramatic; Kijiji fails may not rend the social fabric, but the sense I get is everyone is moving away, less of a part of whole, less of bond or respect for their fellows.

I'd like to think its just the internet and the anonymity it creates, or maybe its just me getting old and grumpy....but it doesn't feel its going in the right direction.

 

[architect]

As for the emoji, the ruling actually details that these two had been doing deals with as little communication as that for some period, before the guy who gave the other the 'thumbs up', decided to screw his business associate on a deal, so I figure, fair enough. I doubt it does ANYTHING in the way of Contract Law, other than to remind folks that when they make a deal, they should probably go through with it.

Agreed. As someone who worked as contract administrator on construction sites, the thumbs up on big Change Orders happens all the time when all parties have a good working relationship, collaborative, and understanding. On the other hand, there are hostile construction jobs where everybody looks out for themselves only, on edge from potential lawsuits, and nobody picks up a tool unless there is proper paperwork signed-off by 3 different parties for every little adjustment. This ruling is based on a specific context between the two parties.

 

[historicalarms]

Ohh boy we could get into a real brew-ha ha over this one but I wont other than to say at least down there if a judge ignores the constitution he is corrected in short order.....not so up here.
I know of at least three written rulings , one from Ab superior courts and two from SCOC that made rulings against you and me and a lot of others on this forum specifically.
I was taught that the cornerstone of Canadian law was that politicians made the laws and judges just enforced them as written, but that has changed to Judges making laws to suit themselves. In the written rulings I am referring to the words to the effect that were used are "although the actions of the government appear to contradict the constitution, however for the good of civilization we are going to allow the legislation to stand"..... "or the good of civilization" removes any dictation to actual legislated law & is making laws to suit 9 people while 5 million Canadians were thrown under the bus.

 

[Mcgyver]

I was taught that the cornerstone of Canadian law was that politicians made the laws and judges just enforced them as written, but that has changed to Judges making laws to suit themselves.

I guess I'm veering close to the edge here, but the beef is systemic vs partisan so maybe it will be ok.

The basis of a democracy is that the elected make the laws. When it happens via judge it does not seem very democratic however its great for politicians; it takes them out of the cross hairs of contentious things. They sort of abscond their responsibility to govern this way. The masterful spin job has taken it to the point where a politician is almost considered to be in the wrong at even suggesting the notwithstanding clause. Really? IMO they should be using it all the time to quell activist judges and keep the law aligned what the democratically elected government says it should be.

 

[Mcgyver]

For sure, I don't mean to be dismissive the entire notion of British common law, however it seems a bit of a difference between relying on the court to interpreting the law and make the law. However unsavory they might be, the later should be done by government, which in reality is politicians and bureaucrats. I don't trust the lot of them, but there is accountability, public debate and process with the gov making law. All said with a general context in mind, not emojies lol

 

[Susquatch]

We could all have great debates about this subject. Perhaps even friendly debates. More often than not though, the debates start friendly and end nasty. That's why the forum doesn't allow politics.

Therefore, I deleted all my comments as well as any references to them.

Please understand that I'm not saying I agree or disagree with anything anyone else has said here or that anyone said anything that upset me. I'm cool.

 

[PaulL]

We could all have great debates about this subject. Perhaps even friendly debates. More often than not though, the debates start friendly and end nasty. That's why the forum doesn't allow politics.

Therefore, I'm going to delete all my comments as well as references to them.

Please understand that I'm not saying I agree or disagree with anything anyone else has said here.

The voice of experience. I'll emulate that.

 

[trevj]

I kinda miss the days when any politician, of any stripe, who said something stupid, would get just lambasted in the media and especially, by the Comedians!

These days they don't even make a pretense out of being unbiased.

 

[Chicken lights]

Ohh boy we could get into a real brew-ha ha over this one but I wont other than to say at least down there if a judge ignores the constitution he is corrected in short order.....not so up here.
I know of at least three written rulings , one from Ab superior courts and two from SCOC that made rulings against you and me and a lot of others on this forum specifically.
I was taught that the cornerstone of Canadian law was that politicians made the laws and judges just enforced them as written, but that has changed to Judges making laws to suit themselves. In the written rulings I am referring to the words to the effect that were used are "although the actions of the government appear to contradict the constitution, however for the good of civilization we are going to allow the legislation to stand"..... "or the good of civilization" removes any dictation to actual legislated law & is making laws to suit 9 people while 5 million Canadians were thrown under the bus.

Let's see if I'm using the right words-

Canada is a constitutional monarchy versus the USA is a constitutional republic?

If that's correct, why do we have a charter of rights and not a constitution?