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Susquatch said:
The whole carbon neutral, green energy thing is a farce. It's just a convenient non-verifyable way for crooks to market total crap.
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Totally Agree. My attitude is the climate has been in consistent flux since it was created. Until China and India reduce their emissions we could live like cave men and it still wouldn't be enough to make a dent or appease the tree huggers. When I can grow pineapples on the back 40 then I might change my mind. I figure I have been gentrified as I get older. I don't do oil changes over the city sewer grates anymore as it was a common practice growing up or use DDT or Agent Orange as grass / bush control.
 
Susquatch said:
The whole carbon neutral, green energy thing is a farce. It's just a convenient non-verifyable way for crooks to market total crap.
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Agree with this. Unfortunately lots of people have been convinced otherwise so we're stuck with it until the next great leader that will set us on another path.
I'm middle of the road when it comes to green, having been involved in green energy (wind turbines) and the oil & gas industry rather equally. Neither are great for the environment (local or globally), but we all want our internet, computers, cars and tropical fruits which we can't have without the energy to make, operate or transport them.
The approach I'm taking is that of acceptance regardless the cause, I think its inevitable that things are warming up and climate is shifting / changing. Accept, adapt and move on for this individual. I'll let a bigger brain figure out if we can really change things with all the variables that are in play.
I'll also be more efficient and less wasteful - that just goes to the cheap side of me. No need to burn 18L/100km in a truck that does the same job (for me/my requirements), when one can be had that burns 12L/100km - I can be "good for the environment" while being cheap.

I had a debate with a coworker who was talking all uppity about how he was saving the world with his eco friendly hybrid commuter car and was putting me down over driving a pickup truck to work. How many KM's to work? Me - 15, him - 45. How many liters a week? He was burning more per week than me. Who's doing better for the environment? My truck has probably another 10 years in it and double the current km's. How friendly is it to go buy something new and add that consumption to the environment? And wear it out at 3 times the rate? 3 times the tires added to a pile somewhere. He didn't like me.

As for the farce of 'net zero' - I guess my current house might qualify too, the carbon captured in the wood framing and sheathing, wood floors and kitchen cabinets is pretty significant. Just need to do some messy math that no one will question and its probably carbon negative! Heck, even the drywall has paper with carbon captured in it on 2 sides!
 
Mike R said:
I'll also be more efficient and less wasteful - that just goes to the cheap side of me. No need to burn 18L/100km in a truck that does the same job (for me/my requirements), when one can be had that burns 12L/100km - I can be "good for the environment" while being cheap.
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I use to love to drive V8's but as times and needs changed I downside first to V6 and then to 4 cylinder's (diesel and gas). At present I am driving a Honda Fit a 4 cylinder gas clown car. It does the job and as fuel economy goes if I put high test in and drive to Toronto then back I get 4.0 litres to 100 km. If I'm easy on the gas pedal and keep to the flow of traffic I have gotten as low as 3.8 L/100. In town driving I typically get 4.9 to 5.2 L/100 depending on the weather, summer vs winter. I always buy a vehicle based on the need not the want.
I funny thing is back in the seventies a V8 1/2 ton pickup got 15 mpg or 15.6 L/ 100 and forty years later they still get the same gas mileage with all the fancy anti pollution gadgets and complicated computer systems that the average joe can't fix themselves. Hum...
 
Warlock said:
funny thing is back in the seventies a V8 1/2 ton pickup got 15 mpg or 15.6 L/ 100 and forty years later they still get the same gas mileage with all the fancy anti pollution gadgets and complicated computer systems that the average joe can't fix
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Tires are twice the size and vehicles have doubled thier weight.
 
Warlock said:
I use to love to drive V8's but as times and needs changed I downside first to V6 and then to 4 cylinder's (diesel and gas). At present I am driving a Honda Fit a 4 cylinder gas clown car. It does the job and as fuel economy goes if I put high test in and drive to Toronto then back I get 4.0 litres to 100 km. If I'm easy on the gas pedal and keep to the flow of traffic I have gotten as low as 3.8 L/100. In town driving I typically get 4.9 to 5.2 L/100 depending on the weather, summer vs winter. I always buy a vehicle based on the need not the want.
I funny thing is back in the seventies a V8 1/2 ton pickup got 15 mpg or 15.6 L/ 100 and forty years later they still get the same gas mileage with all the fancy anti pollution gadgets and complicated computer systems that the average joe can't fix themselves. Hum...
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Back in the 70’s…. 1978 for example a 350 chev made about 190hp. Now a v8 makes 400hp. Modern 400hp v8’s do well into 20 mpg.
 
jorogi said:
Tires are twice the size and vehicles have doubled thier weight.
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The questions that begs to be answered why?? If they dropped the horsepower and weight of the vehicle they would probably get will into the 30's. I know that watching the pickups that travel my road in the am, going to work, and in the pm, after work, 90 percent have one person, the driver, in the pickup. I think for most people 400 hp is way to much power unless you are regularly hauling or dragging heavy loads.

I use to RV a fair bit with a Class C motor home and when it was time to replace them I always got the biggest engine under the hood I could find. If a chev 454, if a ford 460 as they were going to work hard for extended periods of time particularly on the hills. Never did buy a diesel as friends found them too hard to get repaired when you were out in the boonies. I did travel with a friend that had a little 20' Class C with a 350 chev engine. It was terrible on fuel and performance as compared with my 460 in the 32 foot Class C.
 
Chicken lights said:
They can't replace the sound of the old cars n trucks though
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Anything in this day and age can be replicated with aftermarket gear. That said my 702Hp 2023 Ram TRX makes its own magical sound that the 70’s has NEVER even come close to.

Underpowered vehicles do not sound good except possibly at idle if cammed. I grew up owning carbed V8’s and loved them at the time. At that time 12 second quarters for a street car were fast lol. My 4x4 truck on 35’s does 12’s off the showroom.
 
6.5 Fan said:
I thought politics was a verboten subject.;)
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I guess it's easy to think that, but my comment wasn't meant to be political or policy. It's just a condemnation of all the false advertising out there that claims to be green when most don't even really know what that means.

I think we all have our opinions on such things and like to debate them with intelligent knowledgeable peers. I'm as guilty of that as anyone.

It becomes a problem when members take offense or have strong passionate differing opinions.

I'll happily delete it if you or anyone else is offended or feels passionately opposed to my comments.
 
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