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One ton gantry crane on sale at princess auto

kevin.decelles

kevin.decelles

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Picked up one of the cranes , on sale for 500, reg 800.

Bought it to help with outside loading and unloading of my truck/trailer

Review: impressed with packaging (wood plywood box), all pieces intact. Powder coating or painting was perfect, and all hardware accounted for

The shocker was the alignment of the holes. There are about 50 bolts involved and there wasn’t an oblong hole, everything mated an aligned perfectly.

All fasteners were metric, no shawdy threads.

It’s small and feeble next to my two ton home built, but it is going to make offloading smaller equipment a dream

About 320 lbs of metal, not a bad deal overall

The wheels may be replaced with something more suitable for outdoors (gravel etc) and I may put it on skis or something I can move with the loader on the tractor


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Looks not that bad, so far we have gotten along with the cherry picker ok but wouldn’t mind something like that for the basement stairs.
 
kevin.decelles said:
Picked up one of the cranes , on sale for 500, reg 800.

Bought it to help with outside loading and unloading of my truck/trailer

Review: impressed with packaging (wood plywood box), all pieces intact. Powder coating or painting was perfect, and all hardware accounted for

The shocker was the alignment of the holes. There are about 50 bolts involved and there wasn’t an oblong hole, everything mated an aligned perfectly.

All fasteners were metric, no shawdy threads.

It’s small and feeble next to my two ton home built, but it is going to make offloading smaller equipment a dream

About 320 lbs of metal, not a bad deal overall

The wheels may be replaced with something more suitable for outdoors (gravel etc) and I may put it on skis or something I can move with the loader on the tractor


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I'm crying because what I really want is a 2 or 3 ton crane. It seems PA recently discontinued their 2 ton cranes. Do you have any threads I could look at about your 2 ton crane build?
 
I’ll post some pictures , the two-ton came with the property when we bought and was home made. It is a fixed height and was made mostly of pipe (previous owner was a pipe welder). It gets used a lot, in fact it was key to assembling the one ton crane by myself

The fixed height Was set at 1/4 “ below the lights and it won’t clear the door which is why I need an outdoor option.

[mention]Dabbler [/mention] had a nice portable crane he designed and built that will do 4+ ton I believe. He has posted on it a couple of times but not an independent thread that I’m aware of.

This was a compromise on time — I have steel laying around to build one (minus the ibeam) but I have too much on the go


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YYCHM said:
This is @Dabbler 's crane. He never did post a build thread.

https://canadianhobbymetalworkers.com/threads/moving-the-3100-lbs-deckel-kf2.2827/#post-35930
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I've noticed Dabbler seems to be famous on this forum for his gantry and his acumen moving heavy stuff. I made notes but somehow I missed what he used for the main horizontal cross member which appears not to be the same 4X4 tubing. This is all I have on it so far:
"My home built gantry crane was made from 4 X 4 X .166 steel tubing with 3/8 thick connector plates. I used 3/4 inch bolts to connect my crane together. with 5/8 bolts in the 'low stress' areas. The risers are .188 wall." I like that he used bolts instead of welding things together. I am not a professional welder and would not trust my welds in such critical places.
 
On the PA 1-ton, the majority of the bolts were 19mm (I-beam to supports etc). The vertical diagonal supports were 22mm.

I think there is a tendency to farmer-engineer most home projects -- ie: build to 3-5 times 'retail product'. I'm guilty of it for sure. I know with Dabblers crane that he had input from someone knows about beam-load.

I concur on your welding assessment -- I can weld, but I wouldn't bet my life on my welds.
 
As most people I would rather have a 2 ton or even 3 ton. A lot of equipment is 1.5t.

You can rent aluminum based bridge crane that is a 2t for about 150 per day or so. Assembles quickly.

I also plan to weld my own 2t/ 3t. Beam calculations are not that difficult. I think one can find it online in less then 30min. I would calculate the actual loads this time around after a bit of a fiasco with my initial build of an engine hoist.
 
My apologies for digressing from the original subject but the broader topic of lifting heavy stuff in the home shop is a big deal for me and I imagine for many others as well. I bought myself the PA 2 ton engine crane for lifting heavy stuff in my own shop but discovered it has some severe limitations for my purposes. For one it doesn't reach very high so for a vertical milling machine for example it could be useless for offloading from a trailer. Second the PA engine hoists are made with the feet in a traditional V. That means there are severe limitations in the size of your objects footprint if you want to lower it to the ground. I've seen some Youtubers modify the feet on their engine cranes into a U shape to make them more useful in a machinist shop. Any way you cut it I like a gantry crane better and preferably a 2 or 3 ton.
 
All good ideas/thoughts. Moving heavier loads 'safely' was the motivation behind this 1-ton. I have 2-ton capability and palette jack in the shop itself, great when I don't have it blocked with a tractor restoration project :)

I moved a piece of equipment on the weekend, and although in the 250-300 pound range, it proved awkward and there was almost a safety issue (happy to have all my teeth!) . And this isn't the first of those were a 1-ton crane would have 'solved the issue', simply drive under, lower to ground, then move w/Tractor.

I have a small tractor w/loader, which is good for about 700lbs, but there are hazards with this, especially wide or off balanced loads. The crane will provide a stable platform for most of my outdoor stuff. For the 2% of the time where I need > 2T, I'd hire riggers.
 
So after all the talk and agonizing about how to land some machines in my shop I also bought the 1 ton crane from PA today. Ultimately I hope to build a "Dabbler crane"but in the mean time I figured the PA crane is a good deal, a big move up from what I have so far, probably will be easier to set up, and may have more use with smaller loads than a bigger crane. PA describes the package as 89.2 x 20 x 8 in. and 323.4 lbs. I don't have the luxury of owning a pickup truck and didn't want to pay for a rental so I loaded it into my little Honda Civic. A few people in the PA parking lot were amazed at what I was doing. The PA warehouse employee didn't think my plan was feasible. I explained that I regularly fit a dozen 8 foot 2X4's into my car and that my mother in law weighed at least 350 lbs so it should be a piece of cake. :)

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Canadium said:
So after all the talk and agonizing about how to land some machines in my shop I also bought the 1 ton crane from PA today. Ultimately I hope to build a "Dabbler crane"but in the mean time I figured the PA crane is a good deal, a big move up from what I have so far, probably will be easier to set up, and may have more use with smaller loads than a bigger crane. PA describes the package as 89.2 x 20 x 8 in. and 323.4 lbs. I don't have the luxury of owning a pickup truck and didn't want to pay for a rental so I loaded it into my little Honda Civic. A few people in the PA parking lot were amazed at what I was doing. The PA warehouse employee didn't think my plan was feasible. I explained that I regularly fit a dozen 8 foot 2X4's into my car and that my mother in law weighed at least 350 lbs so it should be a piece of cake. :)

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Now the crane might be helpful to load the mother inlaw also?
 
I had seen the ad earlier in the PA flyer but didn't go for it. Well, after the fiasco my buddies and I had the other day getting my machines to the garage door as I just moved out of my old house I changed my mind. Ordered one this afternoon. We still got the machines loaded on the trailer with the rented telehandler, and unloaded at my new house, but I have to finish the inside of my garage so just slid them inside the door with the zoom boom for now. It was sketchy enough moving the machinery to the door, I would rather not kill anyone with moving them to their installed positions here.

At least the gantry crane looks like it can be disassembled to store if necessary. My garage has a big I-beam in it so I already got the 1 ton trolley on their last sale, and the 45 dollar chain hoist on this one, so I should be set.

As well, there was no stock in either Edmonton store so I just ordered it delivery. Turns out the 50 bucks they'll cover in freight meant I get it delivered to the door for 23 dollars worth of a delivery charge. I think my old Ford with the 6.2 would have eaten that in gas getting into town to pick one up!
 
I still prefer using a jib boom on a loader but I can see where a gantry crane has its uses. I know of a guy that uses a gantry to set cylinder heads on motors, much more manageable with one person. Every job has its tool
 
I have wanted to pick up one of these for awhile, however the $740 shipping option (only one available!) is kind of a deterrent!
 
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