Maybe not queer, weird yes.
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Maybe a Logan lathe in Vancouver
- Thread starter garball
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These things.
Ok.... now you have completely lost me. How does one use a drill chuck as a substitute for a lathe dog?
VicHobbyGuy
Ultra Member
Would you drive to Belleville to see this lathe (listed at $1000) ?
It's the same sort of thing.....it's the whole day (and a long one at that, even if the ferry sailing isn't cancelled) to go to Vancouver and back, and the ferry is $150.
Assuming I would ever want to go to Vancouver!!
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trlvn
Ultra Member
In the Vancouver area, how much does a good condition 10 X 24? lathe go for? $2k? More? At $1k or less, doesn't that make it a great deal?
You seem to have concluded that this machine is a wreck. Maybe it is. I'm not telling you to take a $150 ferry ride and spend a day on the project. But if I was close by...
Craig
@YYCHM - this picture shows using the lathe dog setup, the chuck would replace the use of the center and dog at the headstock end. Does this help?
Yes, sort of. Does the drill cuck mount on the spindle proper (like a 3J/4J would) or is it mounted on a taper shank that's pushed into the spindle taper?
trlvn
Ultra Member
The ones I've seen (pictures of) screw on to the spindle. I imagine somewhere there are taper-mounted chucks, probably with a draw bar.
Craig
VicHobbyGuy
Ultra Member
I paid $600 (in the 'Greater Victoria area'
) for my Logan 210 with:3-jaw and 4-jaw chucks
new motor, new flat leather belt
full set of change gears
steady rest
follow rest
tailstock Jacobs drill chuck
carriage stop (adjustable, graduated)
several MT2 tailstock centers (including a crotch center)
lantern toolpost with a bunch of toolholders, including a threading tool
several handsful of HSS tools from 1/4"-1/2"
the wrenches for the tailstock and carriage lock
* a half-dozen (Craftsman) turning tools for wood
*some calipers for wood turning
* sold those, reducing my cost to $525
Now, I know I got a bargain, but it has still changed my perception of 'great deal'.....
VicHobbyGuy
Ultra Member
EDIT: I guess you mean that the drill chuck would replace a center and dog? I don't see how that's any different than just using the regular 3-jaw chuck (or a collet).
Previously: It might help @YYCHM but now I don't understand. If you are using a dog, why not just put a MT3 (?) center in the spindle? And if the chuck is on the spindle, how do you drive the dog (which I usually imagine being in a slot in the faceplate, the way it was in my 1970s night school machine shop class)?
The lathe dog reference was misleading and that's what caused my confusion as well. His drill chuck threads onto the headstock spindle like a regular 3J/4J. It's nothing more than a small headstock chuck.
VicHobbyGuy
Ultra Member
I figured that out after a bit of thought. Please see my edited version.
Yes, I don't see how using a chuck would work instead of a center and dog for things like turning tapers by offsetting the tailstock.
trlvn
Ultra Member
I think we can all agree then, that ...I paid $600 (in the 'Greater Victoria area'
YOU ss...sss...SS...SSS...
committed Grand Larceny!!
Craig
Think of it a bit like a collet chuck. My 5C collet chuck gets more use than all my other chucks combined.
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Couple of things.
I don't think its a home made cover on the lathe, overall I think he was showing all that came with it (again easier to sell if the seller knows little about the lathe).
Definitely not a 200 or 210 (I had a 200) and the dimensions on the head stock is wrong along the carriage seems a little short in height in the skirt.
As to Drill on a spindle, you gotta be kidding me, just as valid a 3 jaw chuck or collet. Allows you to hold smaller things than any standard three jaw.
Additionally, depending what fixtures you use or build (yes we do that as so called machinists) you hold your work in the tool holders location as increase production and reduces wear in your running gear as start stop is not required as your cutter/drill is in your chuck.
Here is photo of just such an application, currently a 3 jaw chuck, but on my Logan I used a drill chuck because of convenience.
I don't think its a home made cover on the lathe, overall I think he was showing all that came with it (again easier to sell if the seller knows little about the lathe).
Definitely not a 200 or 210 (I had a 200) and the dimensions on the head stock is wrong along the carriage seems a little short in height in the skirt.
As to Drill on a spindle, you gotta be kidding me, just as valid a 3 jaw chuck or collet. Allows you to hold smaller things than any standard three jaw.
Additionally, depending what fixtures you use or build (yes we do that as so called machinists) you hold your work in the tool holders location as increase production and reduces wear in your running gear as start stop is not required as your cutter/drill is in your chuck.
Here is photo of just such an application, currently a 3 jaw chuck, but on my Logan I used a drill chuck because of convenience.
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VicHobbyGuy
Ultra Member
About the model ID and the belt cover: Opinions can differ.
It would be much easier if the seller had posted the Serial # which is stamped at the right end of the ways. But, like other useful pictures (drivetrain, bull gear, change gear end) those details are missing. Somebody in the 'Lower Mainland' needs to go for a visit!
VicHobbyGuy
Ultra Member
There'a always another 'great deal' in the future....no need to grab the first thing you see, unless it's what you really want.
I really just bought the Logan out of curiosity more than need.