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Tips/Techniques Making the Square Drive hole in a custom socket.
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Tips/Techniques
Is the real question then where to get a grinder and rattle can?
You are just as bad as the rest.
You guys that are pushing welding at me are all evil.....
Maybe I'll make 2 versions just to make you guys happy.
Then I'll ask you which one you like best and see how many prefer the tool that looks like it has a bad case of slag cancer.
Or maybe I could add bondo to fill in the voids and turn that mess on the lathe before painting it lime green......
Ya, not happening.
another idea would be to get a single 1/2 or 3/4 socket from princess auto (cheap) that fits the ID of the part you will be making or slightly oversized and then turn down the socket to press fit it in there and then either weld it in or drill a hole and install a pin....
140mower
Don
Before threading the main body.
The two main pieces. I would replace the boring bar part with the square took bit that I described earlier for making the square hole.
And mounted in the clapper in place of the lantern tool post, the regular tool post is sitting on the table below the new one.
Using my new tool to put a keyway in the gear I made on the shaper using the gear cutting attachment.
This little project you have planned should give a broad set of lessons for the grandkids, covering several operations.
I'm not sure about using a shaper, but to make a square hole in the center of a part, I would suggest drilling an undersized hole and pressing a tapered broach through until it cuts to the final dimension.
I don't have a shaper, but i imagine that you could set it up to hold that kind of tool
unless the square hole is substantially larger than the tool doing the cutting, I think it will be very hard to cut a totally symmetrical shape. And at that size, a tooth pick of HSS seems like a lot of trouble
I don't have a shaper, but i imagine that you could set it up to hold that kind of tool
unless the square hole is substantially larger than the tool doing the cutting, I think it will be very hard to cut a totally symmetrical shape. And at that size, a tooth pick of HSS seems like a lot of trouble
historicalarms
Ultra Member
It doesnt matter what it looks like on the farm...women have been proving that for eons...as long as they get the job done, the farm dont care!!!
philipFROM-PNW
Member
LMAO, this is the funniest post I have seen in a LONG Time, about SWMBO, thank you, it's a great Wake Up, here in Down UnderAlso, apparently you have TIG and know how to use it. Which excludes me from your thinking.
But ya, definitely looking for an excuse to use a shaper.
SWMBO - WTF is that new machine you got?
HWMO - It's a Shaper honey! I needed it to make that custom propeller wrench for our son. You know, the wrench he had to borrow because he couldn't afford one of his own! It's for that new 200ft boat he got for his wife and our grandkids.
SWMBO - OHHHH! That new machine of yours did that! Well it's about time you bought something useful! I'm getting very tired of all the stuff you buy for this stupid farm you know!
HWMO - I know, but don't forget that the farm let's me write off the machine I got to look after our son's family.
SWMBO - OK, I didn't think of all that. It turns me on when you do stuff for the kids you know.
HWMO - Ya, I can be pretty thoughtful when I try.
SWMBO - You wanna?
HWMO - Again?
philip, from the Great Pacific, NorthWET, Oregon Division, USA
philipFROM-PNW
Member
So, >>>that<<< is where I Lost my Cell Phone YESTERDAY !!!Um, it's called "under the piles", duh !
You folks up North have so helped the phoneless old GEEZER . . . .
philip, from the Great Pacific, NorthWET, Oregon Division, USA
That's very true. None of my spawn live on a farm though and this tool will be used on a frigging Yacht. So when my son brags to his yachting buddies about what his kids made for him, it will have to be a thing worthy of his pride....
I'm mentally prepared for it to be a little imperfect. Most likely any bragging will involve some spirits. It will be ok.
Considering that before joining this forum I didn't know what a shaper was, and I have never used one, take my advise for what it is worth
It seems to be that the biggest problem is that your tool holder is almost certainly too big to fit through the hole that you are trying to make. So You will have to find some way for the tool to stick out far enough and at an angle that it can actually reach in an make a shape through the material. It is hard to guess at how you might do that without knowing something more about your tool holder / options, but if you can do that, then a long & slender HSS blank could be advanced from the center of an undersized hole toward each corner in succession
It seems to be that the biggest problem is that your tool holder is almost certainly too big to fit through the hole that you are trying to make. So You will have to find some way for the tool to stick out far enough and at an angle that it can actually reach in an make a shape through the material. It is hard to guess at how you might do that without knowing something more about your tool holder / options, but if you can do that, then a long & slender HSS blank could be advanced from the center of an undersized hole toward each corner in succession
Very nice Don! I like it a lot! That photo pulled everything I know I don't know about how to hold a boring bar type tool on a, shaper out of the fog for me. I'm betting there is still a lot of stuff I don't know I don't know, but it's still progress. I'll take what I can.
Why isn't the original tool post threaded? Is there something unique about it? Or is it like an old lathe lantern and held in place with the center stud that tightens up on the tool and thereby pulling the lantern post bottom flange tight into its t-slot?
Unfortunately, I didn't get the universal that belongs to the shaper, but I can and have cut gears on my mill, so I'm counting on that method next time I need to make a gear. As I gain experience and knowledge perhaps I'll buy or make something to do that job on the shaper. We will see.
Thank you!
Yupper! That right there is the issue. Gunna learn a lot trying to do exactly that.
I don't think it will be too hard though as the 1/2 square hole only needs to be 1/2" deep. In fact it could be shallower but I plan to shoot for the same depth as the width. A 1/4" HSS tool bit held in line longitudinally should work.
ChazzC
Ultra Member
Don’t have any experience, but wouldn’t it be easier to make it a through hole?
Also, not using your shaper, but a new tool: rotary broach in the lathe?
I sure think so. For a 1/2" square drive hole I'd start with a drilled 1/2" hole.
Ya, I thought about that. Frankly, there are lots of ways form drilling the four corners and using a file, to using a broach in my 3ton arbour press.
But....... I want to use the shaper. That way the boys get to tell their dad that they used a bandsaw, a mill, a lathe, and a shaper too!
For SWMBO, the shaper element is mandatory in my mind.
No I don't have it yet. It has a lantern style tool post where the axis of the lantern is the same as the main axis of the shaper.
See @140mower 's post above. His custom toolpost will hold a square or round shaft of hss. As of right now, I plan to make one like his.
eotrfish
Ultra Member
I agree - maybe it’s time for you to make rotary broach - just saying