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And, as a farmer myself, people would absolutely go bananas if they knew what "Organic" food really means. No pesticides and fungicides means worms, bugs, and mold, up the wahzoo. And I am not talking Occidentals! I refuse to be a part of that stupid game! We don't buy organic foods, and we don't grow them.

Btw, this is one game where cheating is actually a good thing. And trust me, there is a phenomenal amount of cheating!
 
Doggggboy said:
You've been eating them literally since you were old enough to be eating solid food.
Embrace the bugs!
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Rodent hairs and bugs: The acceptable amount of grime allowed in your food in Canada - National | Globalnews.ca

There is a certain amount of insects and rodent hairs allowed in our food -- but the amount is miniscule and will not harm you, according to the CFIA.
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True: most produce and other plant-based foods (like chocolate) have allowable amounts of insect fragments & rodent hairs - very, very small, but discernible under microscopic examination. With regard to chocolate, the finer cocoa is ground the more difficult it is to see the “contamination,” so that really smooth higher-priced chocolate that everyone loves may actually have more than a coarser/grainier chocolate.

You learn all kinds of fun facts working in the food industry: did you know that those black Vanilla specs you see in some products aren’t seeds but bean pods that are ground up after the extraction process? Still “Vanilla” per Standard of Identity.
 
Susquatch said:
And, as a farmer myself, people would absolutely go bananas if they knew what "Organic" food really means. No pesticides and fungicides means worms, bugs, and mold, up the wahzoo.
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And where do you think organic fertilizer comes from?

(Did you mean “incidentals?”)
 
ChazzC said:
(Did you mean “incidentals?”)
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No. I deliberately typed Occidentals. I have always used it to mean Europe & the America's (countries with laws like ours), but it was a bad choice regardless. I should have said "not just regulated foods".......

In fact, it would have better to have just left the sentence out.

The bottom line is that even regulated organic foods have pesticides, herbicides, & fungicides in them. Many organic farmers cheat because nobody wants to buy a moldy, bug infested harvest.
 
Organic means different things to different people, different organizations, and different countries. It is a real sh$%t show figuring it out, "if" you even can!
Some "chemicals/sprays/powders, whatever" can used for certain things but not others. Even the amount can vary. Some countries are using stuff that has been banned in many other places, and then importing the finished grown product where ever.
As to the testing of such products, that's another sh$%t/con/smoke show. Yes, many presently used products "passed" the tests. Alot of fish, plants, etc. were dead by the 10 day, but passed the 7 day test that was required.
As to cutting back on petroleum-based products, good luck, dam near everything we use is in some way based or requires petroleum-based products to make.
All them big Ole blades spinning on a pole are going to stop with a lot of groaning, screeching without lube. Just use a little butter!
Time to leave this post!
 
I do not use pesticides or herbicides on raising my garlic crop.. But that does not mean I go to the organic church or follow their religion. I have found in my 95 truckloads of 40 year old manure on my place that they still contain herbicides.
The best way to destroy this stuff is spread it out, till it repeatedly, and expose it to the sun and oxygen, which I did. The main culprit is Grazon or it's competitors.
 
Ironman said:
I do not use pesticides or herbicides on raising my garlic crop..
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I would think most critters stay the hell away from Garlic. I should try planting a little in my corn fields to keep the deer, raccoons, ground hogs, and rabbits out. Prolly won't stop my biggest problem though - grackles.
 
Susquatch said:
I would think most critters stay the hell away from Garlic. I should try planting a little in my corn fields to keep the deer, raccoons, ground hogs, and rabbits out. Prolly won't stop my biggest problem though - grackles.
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Grasshoppers have no problem with garlic as food, but you are right, most things avoid it.
The big curse for garlic is fusarium. Wind born spores, and anywhere grain has grown means there is a bunch of it. I'm trying copper sulphate as a anti-fungal treatment before planting this year, as bleach does not cut it all that well.
 
Ironman said:
Grasshoppers have no problem with garlic as food, but you are right, most things avoid it.
The big curse for garlic is fusarium. Wind born spores, and anywhere grain has grown means there is a bunch of it. I'm trying copper sulphate as a anti-fungal treatment before planting this year, as bleach does not cut it all that well.
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But on the bright side of things, I bet you dont have problems with vampires?
 
Eating 100% land-based bugs is a non-starter for me - but I think these attempts to try to experiment with alternate sources of protein is a good thing in the long term. There are places in the world where eating things we consider gross is commonplace.

BTW My Dad used to call shrimp 'ocean bugs' and refused to eat them. I love them! Most 'jumbo shrimp' are actually farmed freshwater crayfish. It's all in the head.

FWIW I'm not some vegetarian or new-age person, but I think people that are brave enough to be extremely different gets a thumbs up for me.

I think growing things organically is really only possible for small holdings where the grower is in intimate contact with the plants a lot. The produce is never 'perfect' - with blights or insect attacks, etc. Large scale organic is IMO impractical, (as @Susquatch says) cheated, or terrible for the soil. Manure spreaders seem to be going by the wayside these days! I used to love rural drives in the spring after dunging. Again - all in the head.
 
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