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History (ww2)
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gerritv
Gerrit
For those who can't get the print version, here are all of the issues from WWII. Fascinating reading, and likely contain good examples of Allied propoganda/spin .
https://www.ibiblio.org/pha/TWI/
Germany published news reels, Die Deutsche WochenSchau, many of which are on YT. Those also contain their spin on events.
Germany also published a magazine called Signal (Signaal in Holland) in various languages. Stopped in 1944 once the tide turned.
signalmagazine.com
https://www.ibiblio.org/pha/TWI/
Germany published news reels, Die Deutsche WochenSchau, many of which are on YT. Those also contain their spin on events.
Germany also published a magazine called Signal (Signaal in Holland) in various languages. Stopped in 1944 once the tide turned.
Signal Magazine 1940 - 1945
Signal 1940 - 1945, a German Propaganda Magazine of World War II
signalmagazine.com
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historicalarms
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If Dave doesnt take them I am interested, I got a couple volumes of that set at a gunshow years ago but have never been able to find the rest of the set. I have complete sets of Civil War & Viet Nam but not WW ll
Hmmm....
Brother-in-law's father was Special Service Force, aka, Devil's Brigade. I looked for, and found a picture of him, on the Canadian War Archives website.
My Grandfather graduated out of Royal Military College Kingston, in the Post WW1 era, his contribution to the effort was to be a supplier of flower seeds. Flower seeds were found to be the fastest sprouting seeds to be used for camouflaging buried bunkers and earthworks...
A while before all that, my Great Grandmother's Father, Served in the Victoria's Volunteer Rifles, I have his Medal for the part he played, in the Battle of Eccles Hill.
Brother-in-law's father was Special Service Force, aka, Devil's Brigade. I looked for, and found a picture of him, on the Canadian War Archives website.
My Grandfather graduated out of Royal Military College Kingston, in the Post WW1 era, his contribution to the effort was to be a supplier of flower seeds. Flower seeds were found to be the fastest sprouting seeds to be used for camouflaging buried bunkers and earthworks...
A while before all that, my Great Grandmother's Father, Served in the Victoria's Volunteer Rifles, I have his Medal for the part he played, in the Battle of Eccles Hill.
gerritv
Gerrit
My uncle was forced to rebuild Messerschmitt engines under the Olympic Stidium in Amsterdam. They left the tolerances as loose as they could get away with.
My dad's father had his cable radio distribution business in Amsterdam forcibly nationalized in 1941. Either that or my dad went to Germany as forced labour.
They always had back packs ready to depart with.
Mother's grandparents almost killed by an allied bomber clearing bombs, several people killed next door.
Aunt & family relocated from Rotterdam near harbour to Amsterdam due to repeated bombing by allies.
My dad's father had his cable radio distribution business in Amsterdam forcibly nationalized in 1941. Either that or my dad went to Germany as forced labour.
They always had back packs ready to depart with.
Mother's grandparents almost killed by an allied bomber clearing bombs, several people killed next door.
Aunt & family relocated from Rotterdam near harbour to Amsterdam due to repeated bombing by allies.
That sounds much like the Occupied French, when put to work making Fiesler Storches ( I think I got the spelling pretty close ) which were a very short takeoff and landing light plane that was quite useful to anyone with access to one. They were having structural failures of a largely wooden airframe, and eventually, traced it back to that the conscripted laborers, were peeing in to the glue pots that were being used to put them together...
I worked with a guy whose Parents went through the starvation in Holland. He was beaten if he did not finish what was on his plate! Tough, rough people. Survivors.
Canadium
Ian
My ancestors all fought bravely against the Nazis, some of them lost their lives. My dad began the war as a Captain in the Polish navy and ended the war as Lieutenant Commander in the English Navy. He was awarded a medal for bravery for single handedly defusing numerous unexploded ordinance in order to protect cadets under his command. He was wounded in action and his first wife went missing and was presumed dead in the Warsaw uprising. My parents didn't become Canadians until after the war ended. My grandfather (my Mom's dad) was a tank battalion commander that participated in D-day, eventually earned a DSO, and is memorialized to this day in the Dutch town of Axel. I had an Uncle who drove a tank at the battle of Monte Casino. My mother and her family risked their lives by assisting with the underground resistance in Poland during the German occupation. Lots of amazing stories around that. Like something you see in the movies.
historicalarms
Ultra Member
Two of the toughest people i ever knew were both Polish freedom fighters....whatever the task they were handed, there was no "quit" in either of them
Probably not forum great- Karl Marx wrote his books, then Lenin adopted the theory, then Stalin took over(meaning timeline wise)? But Mao wrote his own ideology in his book and they went their own path?
It's very confusing but post- ww2 the soviets under Stalin turned countries like Poland into communism while not being part of the USSR?
I need to find something to read to differentiate between socialism, fascism and communism. The German regime was fascist while Russia/Soviet was communist? Is that the correct usage of the words?
I believe it was Lenin who is quoted as saying socialism is the gateway to communism, is that also correct?
It's very confusing but post- ww2 the soviets under Stalin turned countries like Poland into communism while not being part of the USSR?
I need to find something to read to differentiate between socialism, fascism and communism. The German regime was fascist while Russia/Soviet was communist? Is that the correct usage of the words?
I believe it was Lenin who is quoted as saying socialism is the gateway to communism, is that also correct?
You are right to be concerned. This discussion could go south in a fly's heart beat. Why don't you send a few of us a PM and maybe we can help.
pdentrem
Ultra Member
Here is a few books from Canadian Service men point of view. I have read a few to date. My dad’s brother was in Italy from the landing until about 30 days after D-day. After that he and others were move to join with Canadian forces in Europe and remained there until 1946. He never talked about it, and dad said he was not the same when he came home.
Pierre
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Pierre
Mark Zuehlke
Mark Zuehlke is an award-winning author generally considered to be Canada’s foremost popular military historian. His Canadian Battle Series is the most exhaustive recounting of the battles and campaigns fought by any nation during World War II to have been written by a single author. In...
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Downwindtracker2
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TIK history on You-Tube does about as good a job of explaining some of the differences. His take on Nazi and Fascism is about as clear as you will get in these muddy waters. This is not the place for such a discussion.
How about another one of Dad's stories ? The Canadian Army went into northern Germany after liberating the low countries . Just after when Berlin fell, Dad and his buddy thought they would go and see. So they " borrowed " an American Army Jeep and drove there. He said those Soviet solders were not friendly at all. I got the feeling he thought he was lucky to get out alive.
How about another one of Dad's stories ? The Canadian Army went into northern Germany after liberating the low countries . Just after when Berlin fell, Dad and his buddy thought they would go and see. So they " borrowed " an American Army Jeep and drove there. He said those Soviet solders were not friendly at all. I got the feeling he thought he was lucky to get out alive.
Given that the Germans actually called their ruling Party, Socialist (translated as National Socialist German Workers’ Party) , maybe you really do need to spend some time delving into the History.
I will admit to a level of ignorance as to the difference between Socialism and Communism, but neither seems to have done anyone below the ruling class, any real good. Communism, in particular, taught the people of the former Russian republic, that there was no real need to exceed the minimum daily basic output, as you got the same pay as the guy that rally cared. So people stopped caring.
And those that win the war get to write the history books !
gerritv
Gerrit
My history teacher in grade 10 (1963) was not pleased when I questioned textbook accounts of WWII tank battles. I was quoting from a book by Heinz Guderian, one of the best tank commanders (but German of course). She eventually reluctantly agreed the textbook was wrong.
Sometimes, the story’s can be interesting. My uncle was a tank commander, not sure how many tanks that ment. His statement was, “it was a bad day if you were up against a panzer”. He also said “it could be a good day if you could get all your engines running on your unit”! Seems some had 5? flathead 6s for power.
Another friend said” when you got to the front, if you could find a Lee Enfield and ammo, you dumped the Mauser as any dirt and the dam thing would not work! You can dam near run a tank over the Lee and it was fine, wash it off in a mud puddle and good to go!”
Another friend said” when you got to the front, if you could find a Lee Enfield and ammo, you dumped the Mauser as any dirt and the dam thing would not work! You can dam near run a tank over the Lee and it was fine, wash it off in a mud puddle and good to go!”
Downwindtracker2
Ultra Member
If you are interested in tank design, a You Tube channel Chieftain is great. Look it up.
Tank designers liked aircraft engines for their power and light weight. The Sherman's main engine was an aircooled radial , but engine manufacturing was a limiting factor on tank production. Ford came up with a nice V8 . There was even a diesel. Chrysler ,American's main tank builder, their engineers came up with a solution, five banks of their flat head six.Very, very reliable. It wasn't the first choice of the US Army, so the Brits and Canucks got them. That's 30 spark plugs, 12 of them really hard to get at. You old timers remember how often we had to tune up our cars.
Tank designers liked aircraft engines for their power and light weight. The Sherman's main engine was an aircooled radial , but engine manufacturing was a limiting factor on tank production. Ford came up with a nice V8 . There was even a diesel. Chrysler ,American's main tank builder, their engineers came up with a solution, five banks of their flat head six.Very, very reliable. It wasn't the first choice of the US Army, so the Brits and Canucks got them. That's 30 spark plugs, 12 of them really hard to get at. You old timers remember how often we had to tune up our cars.