deleted_user
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Does the son of the inventor sell plans for it?
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Any history buffs here looking to preserve a museum piece?
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Thanks for clarification. So you're going to make me wait, huh? LOL.
Can you tell me the issue/dates your prior series was published. I tried looking for a master index list or search box but didn't see anything. Maybe I can assemble them onsey-twosey used but thus far its been hit & miss. The odd time someone is selling a collection I'm usually late to the party. Or its from USA & the seller side shipping enthusiasm fizzles.
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DPittman
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I'm sometimes amazed at how fast the last 10 years have flown by, but I am SCARED to think how the next 10 will likely be the same.
very unlikely, I think I'd be safe in saying no
Huge spread on the bid and the ask for this stuff. I just sold 4 or maybe 5 cartons of HSM and Live Steam that were extra for me. They would have had most of the articles. Around $1 issue, went to someone in Alberta, like the birds, cheap cheap cheap. The ad was up for close to a year. No one seems to want them until they're looking for an article lol. I've got farily complete sets at this point, I just bought them when they came up,
deleted_user
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I used to have subscriptions to a dozen live steam and model engineering magazines. I loved them. I also had access to those my father in law bought since he was a millwright and had plans to do metalworking when he retired. He crossed over to the darkside though and took up wood working exclusively.
At the end of the day, storage becomes an issue, especially in places like Toronto where the price per square foot of space is $1100 at the lowest. My collection and I parted ways when the internet became semi-reliable source of metalworking information.
What I find tragic is that all these small publishers dont go digital and make their entire catalog available digitally. I paid for fine woodworking back issues access years ago, and I'd do the same for Live Steam, HSM and a bunch of others.
We have the technology to protect digital collections now, it is cheap. I just dont get it.
As its been explained to me., a lot of special interest low circulation magazines exist for one stragic reason: to maximize press utilization. These massize building sized colour presses aren't economical if they are not constantly running. So you create enough of your own demand to bridge the gap between customer work and (near) full utilization. I doubt they would exist otherwise and the hobby would be the poorer for it (they add value through editing and vetting etc)
deleted_user
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I'm referring to back catalog material only. Releasing back-issues digitally at a more attractive pricing improves market access and interest, adds broader revenue stream for publishers. This is especially true if they license back issues to large libraries.
I've written for numerous trade publications and had the opportunity to speak with a number of small publishers over the years and most tell me that while they adopted digital layout and publishing in the early 2000s prior to that they used manual layup techniques. That means for older publications they have a hindered ability to provide digital content. In some cases the publishers changed hands and did not even preserve an archive copy of every issue from which to digitize editions.
BUT by far the biggest hinderance is the misconception that digitizing collections and offering digital content is costly, difficult, time consuming and requires staffing and time to implement digitization process. Some publishers equate the cost of distributing digital editions to that of print editions. This just isn't the case.
Now all that is assured is that youtube skims most of the profit, content providers have largely gone to video content creation and quality is declining. Small publishers have fallen like flies.
Pity
I'm not disagreeing with your points, however a counter is 1) publishing the back catalogue digitally makes back issues about worthless which negatively impacts subscribers. The prices back issues fetch can be disappointing low, however its not zero so is factor for some in deciding to subscribe. Secondly, knowing there will be digital back issuess take the urgency out of it. "hey, I really like that series, but I wont get to it for a while....no need to subscribe because I can always buy the DVD down the road" That imo is material. Its the same reason a lot of hobby things are offered as a limited run, it creates urgency.
deleted_user
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Your first argument is undermined by the sale of print back issues... and anyone buying such a periodical for the potential resale value is foolish and doing it wrong.
The same argument applies to print back issue availability and sale of current issues. In the end people subscribe in order to get copies mailed at regular intervals. Print sales in retail outlets is virtually dead. The availability of print back issues does not make people say I wont subscribe because I can just order back issues I want.
People subscribe because they want to see what's new and have a regular publication that interests them. When print publications fail everyone loses out.
I'm tired of losing publications and then IF lucky having a half assed pale imitation rise from the ashes that is not even worth the time to view digital publication... looking at you Harrowsmith
trlvn
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I think that explanation isn't quite right. There is massive overcapacity in printing. In the mid-1990's, the average US household used to get over 1,000 catalogues delivered each year. Maybe 90% of that is gone now but printing plants last for decades. The variable costs to run a press are quite low so the remaining printers are competing for a tiny and shrinking volume of work. Printers will take almost any job to try to offset the huge fixed costs of keeping the doors open. Meaning they're offering really low prices to get what work they can. Not to mention that very cheap printing is available in the far East if you can stand the lead times.
Craig
(I worked in newspaper and book publishing for a good while.)
There is a John Bertram Lathe for sale on Kijiji for $2000. I'd suspect you can pick it up a little less because this wont be an easy mover.
If I had my retirement home and shop I'd not be telling everyone this, I'd be up in Peterborough loading this up on a truck.
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I have a Reed built around 1880. It was my first lathe and is very well used. I should sell it (or donate it) to someone who would look after it properly. I often think about making the missing change gears for it.
No worries. They won't be the same. They will be twice as fast as the last ten. The ten after that will be 4x as fast. And so on......
DPittman
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Well my body and mind seems to be on that progressive time warp in terms of aging, I was just hoping the experience wasn't necessarily going to whiz by at the same rate. Sigh.
Yeah, I can see how its an industry that has been pummeled. so much consumer attention (and ad money) is now based in online content. I don't disagree with any of your points and I don't have deep industry knowledge in the sector. It seemed to make business sense and I got it from a publisher explaining their world. I'm not sure how your points wouldn't be consistent with it; a publisher who planned on surviving adopts the strategy of creating/maintaining their own products to maximize press utilization beyond what they do for 3rd parties. i.e.
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