12-11-10-9-8 just for fun

[Hollow-Grind]

Fairly quick for stock, 12s and mid 11s, not lacking in power, just a bit on the chubby side for a drag car;-)

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Oh yeah, fat pigs at 3900lbs. Thing is they would do things an old girl would not dream of. I’ve been done with old iron for a long time. I can have 20 speakers, a/c, 12 way power everything, run 10’s, 11’s, 12’s and drive across the continent then track it. Modern stuff is amazing!

 

[Tom O]

This was the group Dad was part of in Victoria

 

[slow-poke]

Oh yeah, fat pigs at 3900lbs. Thing is they would do things an old girl would not dream of. I’ve been done with old iron for a long time. I can have 20 speakers, a/c, 12 way power everything, run 10’s, 11’s, 12’s and drive across the continent then track it. Modern stuff is amazing!

Another rule of thumb, every 100lbs slows the car 0.1s in the 1/4.

1965 AC Cobra with 427 weighs 2350 lbs. Thats 1550lbs or 1.55s if they had the same power. The day they dyno'd my engine they also dyno'd a factory stock dual quad 427 and I watched it make 637HP at Beatty & Woods

Back in the day they did a 0 to 100 to 0 MPH test of 427 Vette vs. 427 Cobra
The Cobra was stopped at the far end waiting and the Vette had not accelerated to 100 MPH yet, weight matters, ever seen a 3900lb formula 1 car?

Sometimes that old iron is pretty quick.

When parked at the track you chat with whoever is parked besides you. Not uncommon to have a bunch of green horn kids talking about how their car is going to turn 10's or 11's. One look at the car and you can see ten things preventing that car from doing that. Then they make a pass and come back with a dejected look and a 14s time slip. Happens every time.

Just a personal observation but most of the guys that show up with those fancy high powered new high technology cars, forget their slicks and driving skills at home. I have watched numerous high power but heavy ZO6, ZR1 Vettes, Vipers and the new Dodges etc. in my rear mirror as I go through the traps. Not one of them has a decent 60' time either they are smoking their tires or their launch control is limiting the power so much that they loose the race in the first 60'


Please show your 10s time slip with matching numbers to your car.

 

[KeeponDragon]

Another rule of thumb, every 100lbs slows the car 0.1s in the 1/4.

This explains why Mike Finnegans 1960 Eldorado is hitting the extremes it is in regards to power...It's a full body, all steel car, on a custom chassis...but none of it looks light by any stretch. @ a planned 1500 hp I wonder if it'll even touch the 10's??
His 55' Chevy Blasphemi does mid 8's, but he's put that one on a pretty heavy diet...and it's a blown Chevy/Hemi that makes a reliable 1300 + hp...
The amount of $$ he's spent just destroying pistons for the last 3 yrs must be insane...

 

[slow-poke]

Agreed. If you want to go fast racing, the first smart thing to do is start with the lightest chassis you can find. Just look what a motorcycle can do with a 100HP, GSX-750 does the 1/4 mile in 10.5s it's just physics.

Carol Shelby obviously chose the aluminum body AC sports car, not only for its light weight but large engine bay.

 

[Dan Dubeau]

I have a terrible memory for #'s, But I wanna say Mid - low 11's? 11.3-11.5 I think was the best I ever cracked off on my bike. They gave us the slips at the shack, but I have no idea where they ever got to. Stuffed in my leathers and lost to time. The road course was always more fun to me though. I was never the quickest getting off the line, and would always lose a few spots, even starting from pole once in a while, but would reel guys in over the course of a race as I settled into the groove and the tires came in. I raced with some pretty good launchers though, and they made it tough. The ones that could launch, and ride as wide as a barn door were the toughest lol.

 

[Mcgyver]

Please show your 10s time slip with matching numbers to your car.

I wasn't mine at the time and I wasn't the driver but that's my S4's time from Cayuga, a daily driver @ 10.216. Nothing too fancy done to it by it apparently dyno'd at 750 hp. Tune, big pulley, ports polished. He eventually blew the engine, put a new one in (tuned way down, around 550) and I bought it. bit of luxury and amazing handling ..... made me lose interest in old cars. That was an S4 record at the time but has been beaten. i was chatting with a mechanic who was building a 750 hp Volkswagen for a customer. Says its not that hard getting the power, but the little engines don't last putting out that much (as the previous owner found out lol). The Audis are so quick because once you get sort of power the quatro makes for a great launch.

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[Hollow-Grind]

Another rule of thumb, every 100lbs slows the car 0.1s in the 1/4.

1965 AC Cobra with 427 weighs 2350 lbs. Thats 1550lbs or 1.55s if they had the same power. The day they dyno'd my engine they also dyno'd a factory stock dual quad 427 and I watched it make 637HP at Beatty & Woods

Back in the day they did a 0 to 100 to 0 MPH test of 427 Vette vs. 427 Cobra
The Cobra was stopped at the far end waiting and the Vette had not accelerated to 100 MPH yet, weight matters, ever seen a 3900lb formula 1 car?

Sometimes that old iron is pretty quick.

When parked at the track you chat with whoever is parked besides you. Not uncommon to have a bunch of green horn kids talking about how their car is going to turn 10's or 11's. One look at the car and you can see ten things preventing that car from doing that. Then they make a pass and come back with a dejected look and a 14s time slip. Happens every time.

Just a personal observation but most of the guys that show up with those fancy high powered new high technology cars, forget their slicks and driving skills at home. I have watched numerous high power but heavy ZO6, ZR1 Vettes, Vipers and the new Dodges etc. in my rear mirror as I go through the traps. Not one of them has a decent 60' time either they are smoking their tires or their launch control is limiting the power so much that they loose the race in the first 60'


Please show your 10s time slip with matching numbers to your car.

I am aware of the general 100lb rule for drag racing and I realize we have been throwing 1/4 mile times. The reality of my car or truck wants aren’t 1 trick pony’s. 1/4 mile times tell a great story but only 1 story. That is why I brought up creature comforts.

Have you ever looked at Nuremberg ring lap times? You mentioned formula one cars not weighing 3900lbs but don’t think we were talking purpose built track only cars? Look up a Camaro ZL1 and see how it stacks up to a a/c cobra or nova or chevy 2 on the ring which is the gold standard for road cars.

In a sports car I want the whole package. If I built something 1980 or earlier to compete with a modern ZL1 in every aspect it would not be practical. I have seriously considered a 1978-1981 camaro pro touring build.

It’s quite obvious if someone doesn’t have the driver mod at the strip no matter the hp they will loose. Consistent is the king there and spinning ain’t winning. I also don’t wanna drive an auto in a car even though they are faster in the quarter and ordered my white zl1 with a stick.

Never ran a 10 in my ZL1’s as they were both stock but I didn’t buy them to be drag cars and that’s not there main design feature. I could ask you for lap times for your car on a known road track to compare to mine if you wish….