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The wonders of Bill's Privates

Ironman

Ultra Member
We are running Win10 on our 3 computers here. Recently the brains at Bills Privates (micro soft) decided to force people to use their new stuff, like Win11 and force them to buy a new computer to do it. My wife does the accounting for our 3 companies, and was horrified to find her accounting software will no longer work, as it requires Internet Explorer, and she suddenly has Edge. Micro Soft says it is for your own good(really, they did).

I first tried to roll back the last two updates. I have spent the last 3 days attempting to find how to re-download IE. Some tech sites say it is still there but micro soft has hidden it. Wrote a .vbn script to bring it back, and found the IE files have been deleted. I tried 4 to 5 different methods off the net, and micro soft does not offer it on their site.
Now, further info.... We were in Mexico for the last 3 weeks and the computer was unused. We have all updates checked off. It cannot update unless we want a security update or such, and allow it.
Bill's Privates were able to enter the machine, past all her multiple passwords and delete all IE files, even though the updates still to this day remain off.
This morning we got it back and here's how:
I found the PC Settings, System/Optional Features/Add a Feature allows you to add Internet Explorer 11 to your box of rocks. It downloaded this "feature" from some hidden MS site and my wife is happy again. And the accounting software is too.

I also found I can download Win 11 on any old computer with a registry hack and UEFI change. They have colluded with other companies to tell you what you need, (new computer) and force you to do it. It's for your own good.
Just for kicks I put win 11 on a 12 year old computer and it works fine. No, not noticeably slower.

Evil lurks in cracks and holes, and lives in peoples minds, as the song says.
 
@Ironman

"They have colluded with other companies to tell you what you need, (new computer) and force you to do it. It's for your own good."

I see 2 sides to these scenarios. On one hand they have to find ways to keep the profit wheel turning. On the other hand there are the ongoing security risks that updates/upgrades are supposed to help mitigate.

As you discovered there is usually a workaround when the updates/upgrades wreck a smooth running system. Well done!
 
The title had me wondering if I really wanted to go here, lol.

The joys of micro snot, have you thought about or tried any penguin software? Once you get past the learning curve and have software you like nobody will come in at night and hold you hostage.
 
Same thing here, all updates turned off and they come and do as they please when they please breaking working stuff as they go.

No more new windows for me (other than in a VM) under Linux. I have one last PC still running 7 and on my todo list is to make Linux the OS on that machine.

It truly feels like MS now effectively owns my PC that I paid for and I now have limited control with so many features now disabled or hidden "for security reasons"

Seems like many of the open source programs are now on par or better because their goal is to actually write easy to use quality programs. Seems to me MS abandoned that goal decades ago.
 
I run Win-10 & won't change until I absolutely have to. Not that I detest 11, ran it too. Its just doesn't do me any good & there are some attributes I don't like. The thing is, its less about the OS itself & potentially more about ancillary programs & setups running underneath it. It can go well and it can be a PITA. This is a big reason why opinions vary so much.

You just bypass all the tricky ways MS corrals & tricks you to upgrade: Your PC meets the Win-11 requirements. Win-10 on limited support. After routine v10 update you get popups like 'you're almost done, click here. blah-blah.
 
Micro$oft has relented somewhat on the TPM requirement for Win11. They will actually tell you how to install on a "non-compliant" system, with the disclaimer that they won't guarantee it will work properly.

I have a client who is running an ancient bookkeeping package in an XP VM that I set up for him. It has been stable for years and the internet response is faster than the host machine. I'm leaning more and more towards virtualization for everyday use. It sure makes the transfer to a new computer much less painful.
 
Same thing here, all updates turned off and they come and do as they please when they please breaking working stuff as they go.

No more new windows for me (other than in a VM) under Linux. I have one last PC still running 7 and on my todo list is to make Linux the OS on that machine.

It truly feels like MS now effectively owns my PC that I paid for and I now have limited control with so many features now disabled or hidden "for security reasons"

Seems like many of the open source programs are now on par or better because their goal is to actually write easy to use quality programs. Seems to me MS abandoned that goal decades ago.

I like using Linux software. I have a few laptops running various distros. Some are installed and some are on a bootable USB.

Unfortunately it is hard to get away entirely when the software I want to use comes only in a Windows version or the Linux version is far too buggy.
 
Funny tech/humor channel I enjoy. He bashes anyone that deserves it so its bound to offend some and resonate with others. If you only watch one, I suggest his Apple gouging 'I would pay $999'....


 
I like using Linux software. I have a few laptops running various distros. Some are installed and some are on a bootable USB.

Unfortunately it is hard to get away entirely when the software I want to use comes only in a Windows version or the Linux version is far too buggy.
I ran Ubuntu for years. Linux has a real problem with printers and I hope that is now resolved. Operating Windoz in a Virtual Box was an inconvenience to me because the billing software Quickbooks, and my plasma table software to name a few programs, had to have Windows in the VB. When Win 10 came out I thought I'd try windows again and found 10 to be a solid OS. The real solution as I see it is to have a computer that you work with be permanently off line, and go online with a VB. Bill can play around all he wants to in a VB
 
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