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The oldest Chipmaster in captivity

jackary

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The oldest Chipmaster in captivity

It may be an extravagant claim, it is number 1006, the sixth Chipmaster, made in 1956 according to the label on the tailstock end of the bed. (Photo 2). A few years after this was made I was a first year apprentice draughtsman at the Marconi Wireless Telegraph Company in Chelmsford, Essex. For the first year I went to Colchester technical college full time to be taught City and Guilds Machine shop engineering: doing a three year course in one year and ordinary national certificate. I did not then appreciate how lucky I was.

We used to spend all Friday in the machine shop where, among the many machine tools were two brand new Chipmasters. There was a scramble amongst about ten students to get on them first. Then they were new, shiny, and ran like the smoothest machine in the shop. We even had a tour around the Colchester lathe factory in Colchester; I particularly remember the foundry, black sand everywhere and very hot.

When I retired I looked at a few Chipmasters, but the real problem was how to get it delivered. I found only one local company who could deal with machine weighing about a ton. They gave me a price, which was more than I thought I was going to pay for a reasonable lathe, to collect and deliver such a machine. When I questioned the price he said it was simply the cost for a driver and truck for a day’s work. It did not matter at all to him what the machine would cost. He then said what machine did I want as he had a contract to clear some machines from Teddington University.

When I said a Colchester Chipmaster; he thought they might have one of those so to call him back in a couple of weeks. So I called him and arranged to see it at his yard. It looked pretty shabby with only a three jaw chuck. However, I agreed his asking price if he would deliver it about 5 miles away and (a big and) manhandle it to my shed which was over about 50 feet of uneven lawn. With a grimace he agreed. Well four big chaps arrived in a Hiace truck and using their considerable strength manhandled it to the concrete surface of my shed. I thanked them and gave what I thought was a good tip for this.

So there it was, shabby and to my dismay, when I checked it over with a test bar etc. with a fairly worn bed. I even made several graphs of the wear at one inch intervals along the bed in the vertical and horizontal using a clock gauge along a test bar. The rest of the machine was in relatively good order. I think it may have had a relatively light use, doing simple repeated tasks with little use of the feed or screwcutting facilities etc. Well here it was and it was not easily going to go anywhere else worn bed or not. The wear on the inverted vee (about 0.005” max,) was mainly at the areas close to the chuck.

The tailstock sliding and guiding surfaces were in much better condition even untouched closer to the chuck end. So I hatched a plan to simply remove the areas, which were higher than the lowest point to make the saddle guide surfaces flat and straight again. I dismantled the tailstock and used the lower base as a guide to mount a clock gauge on. This slide base was moving on much less worn areas than the saddle moved on, so this was my “reference straight edge”. Not perfect but after some correction, better than anything else I had.

I sharpened up my scraper and got absolutely nowhere, just skidding across the “hardened surfaces” Not all early Chipmasters had hardened beds it was then a customer option with no indication if it was hardened or not. Now what? I made some home made files by gluing cut up sections of a linishing belt to various pieces of wood. These were my files to finally make or completely destroy the lathe bed. It seemed terribly cruel to vandalise virtually unworn pristine surfaces with a sanding pad, but bit by bit the clock gauge was reading less and less. As I progressed I used finer grit grades. I settled for readings that while not to Schlesinger standards were pretty good even though I say it myself. I did not do anything with the leadscrew or feed shaft to suit this slightly lower saddle, it seemed quite good as it was.

The tailstock also had what I think is normal wear at the front of the base plate. The barrel pointed downwards about 0.008”. I shimmed it up to be parallel with the bed in the vertical plane. It was OK in the horizontal plane. The result was that the barrel axis was now about 0.006” too low. The barrel has a No 3 Morse taper, now nearly all my tailstock fittings from my previous lathe are No 2 Morse.
I made a No 3 Morse male sleeve with a No 2 Morse bore which is eccentric to the outer Morse taper by about 0.015”. This was fitted and pulled into position by a long hollow screw in the barrel bore. Before it was pulled tightly into the barrel it was rotated to match the height of the spindle. Horizontal adjustment was made in the normal manner using the set over adjustment on the tailstock base. The result is a preferred No 2 Morse and on centre and parallel in both axes. I also adapted the tailstock to take the capstan feed I had made for my previous Denham lathe. This now permits nearly five inches of travel.

A good clean up and paint, I matched the original dark green paint, and careful reassembly seemed to wash away those shabby years. The spindle bearings seemed to be as good as new which was a relief; it would have been a big problem otherwise. I never intended to keep the massive 5hp motor or the variator speed control fitted as standard. These were removed & replaced with a Telecamique inverter and a new 1.5hp three phase motor. I cut a hole in the lower stand where the original speed control was located to fit the inverter. The existing rear mounted switch box internals were modified so that it could switch the inverter for forward, off and reverse. A variable resistor is housed inside the on/off knob so that rotating the knob increases or decreases the speed. This made for a neat clean operation with the wiring inside the existing, hollow on/off/reverse lever. (Photo 1)

The cross slide was modified by adding tee slots for greater versatility and to mount my lever locking topslide in place of the original topslide. The advantage of this is that it can be moved and locked anywhere at any angle on the cross slide,(Photo 5). The cross slide feedscrew was worn in the middle part. It is a two start thread of 0.200” lead or 5 TPI twice. I set this up in the lathe, which now had no feed screw. I fixed a stop at the end of the cross slide and manually pushed the slide up to the stop on re-cutting the feedscrew and manually withdrew it to return the cutting tool to make another cut.

With the lathe set at 5 TPI, I found that I could make one cut with the screwcutting dial at number one then a second cut at number three. This is when the screw cutting dial has rotated 180 degrees from number one. The purpose of this was to make the second cut along the other screw thread on a two start thread. Using the topslide set parallel to the lathe axis to advance and retract the cut. I cut off just enough so that the worn part was the same as the rest of the screw. Albeit with a thinner thread part and a wider groove between the screw flanks. The reasonably worn nut was cut up to make it adjustable.

I was most pleased with the result; it is about 2 to 3 thou backlash over the entire travel of the cross slide. The end result of my butchery to the lathe bed was that when I was making the vertical column for the Stepperhead lathe I was able to turn a 450mm long, 75mm dia Mild steel bar for the full length to within about 0.0005” and nobody was more pleased and relieved than me.

The standard splash guard on a Chipmaster is a deep affair reaching down nearly to the floor. Where a suds pump is normally located but was missing in my case. This was not a problem for me, as brush application suffices. If you dropped a tool or part, it became a real pain to retrieve it from deep down among the swarf. At the point where the lathe bed sits on its substantial base support is a gap about 5mm wide. I cut a sheet of 6mm plywood to fit the space between the bed and the splash guard with about 15mm angle aluminium fitted to the splash guard to support the other side using self tapping screws. The edge of the plywood was tapered to fit into the gap and rest on the angle support, (Photo 5). The result works very well as anything dropped down can be reached and swarf is easily accessed for cleaning.

I cleaned up the existing three jaw chuck and reground the jaws using a Dremmel. Along time ago I cut a ring of steel into three equal parallel ended segments. These can be positioned between the chamfered faces of the jaws, tightening the jaws with these in place pushes the jaws in a similar manner to the normal operating mode and allows clear access for grinding the jaw contact faces (Photo 14). Ebay supplied a four jaw chuck and a Jacobs Rubber flex chuck but I had to make the chuck holder to fit the lathe.

I have since made a new Lever Locking Topslide, (Photo 8). This features an oval gib of my own design. It enables the whole upper slide to be solidly locked to its base unit for the full slide length.
A locking lever is positioned just below the feed dial to do this, (Photo 10). It has a screwcutting withdrawal lever for external/internal screwcutting, the intermediate spindle runs on ball bearings and the long feedscrew nut is machined, not moulded from acetal, and this can be adjusted for backlash on the feedscrew.
It has a choice of toolholders, the triangular one for tipped inserts can be inverted and then mounted on the far side of the item being turned like a rear parting tool, (Photo 11). This is very useful if there is a lot of metal to be removed on a long part, it avoids nearly all the swarf being thrown forwards and seems to assist in getting a good surface finish.

Being able to place the topslide on the far side of the piece being turned is also very useful for screwcutting up to a shoulder or a blind bore. The topslide is set at an angle to suit the thread, say 60 degrees to the lathe centreline. Then the cutting tool is positioned just slightly away from the shoulder with the saddle up against a bed stop. To cut a righthand thread the lathe is run in reverse and when the leadscrew is engaged the cutting tool will move away from the chuck to cut the screwthread. This enables the cut to be applied while the lathe is rotating to form a thread depth undercut and avoids scary moments trying to disengage the leadscrew before the tool hits a shoulder as in the normal method.

One main feature of a Chipmaster is the toothed belt drive to the mandrel. As good as it is, it still makes a whine due, I guess, to air being forced out of the tooth recesses during rotation. I worked out that I could just about fit a polyvee belt in place instead. Two aluminium sleeves grooved for a wide polyvee belt are pressed onto the existing toothed pulleys. I was going to Loctite them on but it was not necessary. I was lucky my calculations were good, as the belt tension is just right, lucky because there is no space for a jockey pulley anyway, (Photo 6). This new polyvee drive is great; the lathe is like a new machine, so much quieter than before. To be fair, polyvee belts did not exist in 1956 so the toothed belt was the latest technology then (Photo 7).

To finally finish it off I made a set of bed wipers for the saddle. The holes were already drilled and tapped but the original ones were not fitted, I suppose this had to be specified when it was first ordered.

Another nice feature of a Chipmaster is the power feed disengagement up to a bed stop, very useful for boring etc. All in all, it is a great machine, probably a bit under powered, should have got a 2 hp motor instead of 1.5 hp but it is not a problem for most of the things I do and back gear can always be engaged for large diameters etc.

Over time I have added many attachments, a topslide milling/drilling spindle., (Photo 15). A large brass disc scale from an old rusty meat scale has 200 and 180 holes around the periphery. This can be mounted on the outside end of the spindle for indexing, (Photo 16) I have also made a rotary table that can be mounted on the cross slide in the vertical or horizontal. A Harrison vertical slide has also been adapted to fit the cross slide.

It is 60 years old now and is still going strong; it still runs as smoothly as the ones I used at college as an apprentice. It has weathered time very well; I only wish I could say the same thing about its owner!



Photo 1 All cleaned up

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It is 60 years old now and is still going strong; it still runs as smoothly as the ones I used at college as an apprentice. It has weathered time very well; I only wish I could say the same thing about its owner!

Nice work. The machine is prolly in better shape than me too.

I especially loved your idea of using the tailstock ways as a reference for the worn saddle ways. But I'm curious about how you dealt with alignment without good saddle ways?
 
"I especially loved your idea of using the tailstock ways as a reference for the worn saddle ways. But I'm curious about how you dealt with alignment without good saddle ways?"
Hi Sasquatch, The tailstock vee groove and flat surface was my reference for the other guideways so I trusted and hoped because they had very little wear, especially near the headstock.
 
Beautiful work, did you record the rebuild on a another forum perhaps, would love to see more photos.
Hi skippelwell,Here are some more photos. I did not record the rebuild as I did it so these photos were taken afterwards.
 

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I also have a chipmaster - had little fight with it yesterday when I had to go all the way to the manual to figure out how to change gears on the back for a thick thread.

There are differences with newer model - but overall same shape.
 
"I especially loved your idea of using the tailstock ways as a reference for the worn saddle ways. But I'm curious about how you dealt with alignment without good saddle ways?"
Hi Sasquatch, The tailstock vee groove and flat surface was my reference for the other guideways so I trusted and hoped because they had very little wear, especially near the headstock.

That didn't really address my question but then again, perhaps it did.

For example, if the lathe bed is twisted out of alignment, the tailstock ways will be twisted too. If you then use the tailstock ways, even if they are not worn, as a reference, you could mistakenly correct the carriage ways to a bad reference.

Theoretically, I "think" that one could use the reference anyway as long as the extention of that reference isn't used further up or down the carriage ways from the exact same Z as the tailstock. So I wondered both if, and if so how, you took that into account.
 
Susquatch, I agree with what you say here. My only defence was to trust that the bed was not twisted. The chipmaster bed base is quite a rigid item and has a three point mounting system to the floor. The bed is fully supported by the base and is noted for its rigidity. I had no good means to check for twist but it all looked ok. The tailstock alignment with the spindle seems accurate over the range that it can be moved along the bed, so I take this as the best I can get it. Its a pragmatic solution I realise, but it seems quite good enough for what I do.
 
The chipmaster bed base is quite a rigid item and has a three point mounting system to the floor.

I did not know that any chipmasters had a 3 point mounting system. That is new info for me. It suggests that the bed cannot be aligned anyway. It also suggests that they are designed to maintain alignment for life. If so, it's very cool!

I'd love to know more about that.
 
I really like the milling drilling attachment. Nice. How do you adjust the height? What size motor?
 
"I was able to turn a 450mm long, 75mm dia Mild steel bar for the full length to within about 0.0005”

This kind of resolution, in a hand tuned, 60 year old machine, just blows my mind sir. I have nothing but admiration for your skills and patience...hats off to you....
I don't know if my nearly 100 yr old Crawford will get that kind of treatment...but at least now I know where the bar is set.
 
Hi Susquatch, You asked about the three point mounting points. This attached part of the Manual shows it.
Alan

Wow!

I've never seen that before!

As many on here will know, this is similar to the way that a granite surface plate is designed. By lapping the final dimensions while on its 3 mounting pads, the plate preserves its dimensions after installing by mounting it on the same 3 points at the users shop. We all know how well that works because granite surface plates are the penultimate reference for all machining metrology.

Basically, Chipmaster must have ground and scraped that machine on those 3 mounts when they made it, thus ensuring it would hold its alignment when installed in the users shop.

It does seem odd to ask the user to confirm that the bed is not twisted after installation though. What would you do if it wasn't?

PS - it's relatively easy to see if the bed is twisted by using a machinists level. The method is documented in many places on this forum and elsewhere. Just be mindful that many users confuse levelling with alignment. Use methods that specifically refer to measuring bed twist.

Thank you so much for sharing that.
 
If I understand correctly, Monarch 10 trouble E’s, certain Rivetts, the English CVA, and probably other toolroom lathes all use three point bed mounts. In addition to Chipmasters which I’ve been a little too intimately familiar with. Altho not as up close and personal as the great work by this OP! Easier to accomplish with short beds- haven’t seen any with beds longer than 30”, but I could be wrong.

If the OP has drawings for his topslide mod I’d be very interested.
 
"I was able to turn a 450mm long, 75mm dia Mild steel bar for the full length to within about 0.0005”

This kind of resolution, in a hand tuned, 60 year old machine, just blows my mind sir. I have nothing but admiration for your skills and patience...hats off to you....
I don't know if my nearly 100 yr old Crawford will get that kind of treatment...but at least now I know where the bar is set.
And it’s a high bar!
 
If the OP has drawings for his topslide mod I’d be very interested.

Hi Lucky, I can show you a diagram of the topslide operation and here is a description of it I made a long time ago. I am afraid the text has gone a bit nuts from its old word file. I could notbattach itas a word file so it is pasted in

Alan

A LEVER LOCKING TOPSLID

Cross slide requirements



The cross slide requires two parallel tee slots at right angles to the lathe axis to allow the top slide to move over the full extent of the cross slide (see photo 7). The top slide could be moved in steps over tee slots parallel to the lathe axis assuming that they are equally spaced, but this would be cumbersome and have little advantage over any existing arrangement. It is also good if the tee slots are open at both ends to permit mounting and removing the top slide. This also allows for swarf removal from the tee slots.



The distance between the start of the tee slots and the cross slide feed hand wheel needs to be enough to allow the top slide tee bars to enter the tee slots, otherwise it can only be mounted / removed from the rear of the cross slide. This can be done easily on lathes that have the cross slide hand wheel fixed to the carriage, by just winding the cross slide over, but it needs to be taken into account if the hand wheel is fixed to the cross slide. The distance between the tee slots should obviously suit existing equipment that will be mounted on the cross slide and is dictated to some extent by the diameter of the annulus. I have added tee slots to my lathe and this does reduce the maximum diameter that can be swung over the cross slide. This is not a great concern for Chipmaster lathe but it could be for smaller centre height lathes. Of course a new cross slide can be made incorporating the tee slots if this is a concern. I have modified my vertical slide to suit the tee slots (see photos 20 & 21).





Top slide arrangement



I have made a drawing, Figure 4, incorporating improvements I can now see over my first attempt. In photo 8 you will see that the annulus protrudes on each side of the top slide. Swarf guards have been fitted to both sides of the protrusions. This is not entirely necessary. For a long time I only had one swarf guard on the operator side and did not have any trouble with swarf affecting the locking arrangement. The design I built is symmetrical with the annulus in the centre of the top slide base. If it is offset slightly towards the operator the annulus can be enclosed on the side opposite the operator (Lathe spindle side). This will provide better protection from swarf ingress and also increase the top slide base stiffness. However I am acutely aware that when you make things asymmetrical, you create problems, it is so easy to make it the wrong way round.



The cutting tool should be as well supported as possible, so I have arranged for the support beneath the tool to go directly down to the lathe bed with no overhang, apart from when the top slide is moved forward on its own slide. As we are all aware, the upper slide cantilever should be kept to a minimum. The overall length of the upper slide is 6.5” (165mm) for the one I made. This allows a movement of about 90mm, which is adequate. I can see no reason why this should not be increased to 200mm, which will give much longer travel up to about 5” (125mm), which will always be useful. I have also simplified the feed screw nut and made it adjustable for backlash. The long nut, for low wear, has slits in the centre portion and can be squashed to reduce (eliminate?) backlash via the two retaining hex socket cap screws. The feed screw is now located in a long bore rather than an open groove. This gives better protection for the feed screw and makes the lower slide stiffer but the downside is that the stirrup lever pivot pins cannot be removed if they are plain pins. The new location of the nut also gets in the way. To solve this I have threaded the outer part of the pivot pins to enable their removal.



The width of the top slide adjacent to the tailstock has been reduced as much as possible. Not to the extent of some good previous “L” shaped designs, but everything helps. There are no locknuts on the jib screws just because it allows a clean design, and I have not found the adjustment to change in use. There are grub screws with nyloc inserts available, I believe, which could be used. I have not provided a vee slide locking screw either. These things are personal preference and can be incorporated as desired. The screwcutting retract arrangement is also personal preference and steals most of its design from George Thomas’s design. I think it differs inasmuch that it has an extra gear and does not have an adjustable stop for internal threads. It can be moved in either direction from its stopped position for external or internal threads. There is little I can add to his guidance and design for feed dials etc. The main advantage apart from when screw cutting is to be able to position the feed dial and hand wheel higher and further away from the tailstock, I have maximised this. This also allows for a large handle and dial, which is heavier for smoother operation. It is quite possible to omit the retract part if desired as it is also possible to fit a hand wheel directly on the feed screw if preferred.
 

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A LEVER LOCKING TOPSLIDE



The method of attaching the top slide to the cross slide on a lathe has not changed much from early designs. Originally the tailstock fixing to the lathe bed and the barrel lock was carried out with a spanner and a nut and bolt, now it is lever operated. This is convenient and avoids searching for the correct spanner etc. My proposal is to be able to move and rotate the top slide over the cross slide and lock it in position using a similar lever action.​

It could just be fixed in one location on the cross slide and rotated about that position and locked via the lever but there is much to be gained by being able to reposition the top slide as well. I originally designed and built this top slide in 1976 for my Denham 4½” lathe. Patterns were made for the top and cross slide and machined on a Dore Westbury mill. The top slide worked so well that when I changed to a Colchester Chipmaster lathe I kept the top slide (see photo 1) and fitted it to the Chipmaster. The original Chipmaster cross slide has been modified by adding ½” thick mild steel strips to form tee slots (bolted from underneath). (see photos 2 & 3)​

A spacer has also been added beneath the tool post to adjust the centre height to suit the Chipmaster centre height. The top slide can be moved on the cross slide and locked anywhere, at any angle (see photo 4). It locks positively and rigidly without undue force from the locking lever​



As with all things we make you can always see a better way the next time.

So I have incorporated what I think are improvements to the original design, bearing in mind that the original was designed to suit the first lathe and adapted to suit the second. This is how I would now make it to suit my Colchester Chipmaster lathe. Of course it can be fitted to any lathe by adjusting the overall dimensions to suit. I have also outlined a version to suit a Myford 7 series lathe.





The description of the top slide has been split into the following separate zones on the assumption that this way I will spread less confusion, if I haven’t already done so!



The locking arrangement, justification, description and operation.

Cross slide requirements

Top slide arrangement

Screw cutting retract

Toolpost

Making it













1) The locking arrangement, justification, description, and operation



Now the first question somebody is bound to ask is, will it move under operation when it is locked? I have done my best to answer this further on. No controlled tests have been carried out, other than trying to move it by hand when it is locked. My best answer is that it seems to lock quite strongly enough. The friction grip between the flat contact surfaces and also around the chamfered annulus contact each other over a large area and combine to lock the top slide positively to the cross slide, even when the contact surfaces are covered in oil as is the normal case. This of course relies on the proviso that the contact surfaces fit together with reasonable accuracy. I made a cast iron cross slide for my Denham lathe and my Chipmaster has mild steel tee slots added to it and the grip between these surfaces has been entirely satisfactory.​



It is the role of the top slide to be set at the required angle to the lathe spindle in order to generate the desired shape. Lathe top slides are generally mounted in a fixed location on the cross slide and can be rotated about this fixed position. Provision is made to set the top slide at the required angle by slackening off one or two bolts that fix it to the cross slide, which, are not always easily accessible. The top slide is set at the required angle and the bolts re-tightened.



However, in use, the area beneath and around the cutting tool is often covered with the cuttings (swarf), which have been removed from the part being made. This swarf can have very sharp razor edges and be a hazard for the operator. Therefore to reset the angle of the top slide means that the operator must generally clear the swarf to gain access to the locking bolts fixing the top slide to the cross slide and then make the adjustment and continue producing the part. In some circumstances this process may be repeated many times to complete the part. The constant slackening and tightening of the top slide fixings can lead to worn rounded nuts or clogged and worn hex socket screws. If the locking fixings make contact over a small area it can create local indentation of the contact surfaces, which can make accurate angular setting more difficult. The area around the nuts, radial slots etc. can get filled with swarf, which must be removed to get sufficient adjustment. It is also necessary to have the correct spanner or Allen key available for this operation. They are always getting lost! .

Industry minimises this process by having individual machine tools set up for operations that do not require re-adjustment during the manufacture of the component. The design of many lathes has been dictated by the requirements of industry in the past. The top slide and cross slide is a case in point. It suited industrial lathes to have a plain cross slide and a fixed location for the top slide because any process other than the normal turning operations was carried out on a machine designed for that particular purpose. My chipmaster lathe is a good example of this. However a model engineer’s needs are manifold (I’ve always wanted to say this). To be able to perform a broad range of operations on one machine is an essential requirement for most of us.



The ability to move and rotate the top slide anywhere on the cross slide allows a much greater range from the lathe than is often normally possible. The top slide can be positioned further away from the lathe centre line than normal, enabling the cutting tool to operate easily at the largest diameters possible and be quickly repositioned to operate at the centre. It saves much unnecessary movement of the cross slide by its operating screw. When the top slide is rotated, it rotates about a fixed point on the cross slide. So the cutting tool swings in an arc away or towards its desired final location. It must then be re-positioned by winding the cross slide screw to this location. This entails unnecessary operation of the cross slide screw, which takes time and will produce additional wear due to this extra movement.



There is no need to clear the new location of swarf because the top slide sweeps the swarf clear of its new position. In fact the top slide can be used to clear the cross slide of swarf by releasing the locking lever and pushing it across the full extent of the cross slide. This action clears the swarf from the tee slots as well.



The top slide can be quickly removed and replaced by other devices as required, which can also have similar locking arrangements. It can also be parked in a position on the cross slide, away from the operator, to give good access for setting up or inspecting the component etc. This moves the sharp cutting tools away as much as possible from the operator’s hands.



The top slide can be located on the far side of the component and the cutting tool inverted or the lathe spindle can be run in reverse if the chuck has a camlock fitting, or similar, which will allow safe operation in reverse. (see photo 5) I have found a few instances where this is very useful. Right-handed screw threads can be cut by starting close to the chuck and moving towards the tailstock. This avoids the need to quickly disengage the lead screw nut as it approaches the chuck or a shoulder. There is good access to the component being made, it can be seen very clearly, and measurement is not impeded by the presence of the top slide. The swarf is directed away from the operator – especially good for brass and the eyes! So it can be used to gain some of the advantages of a rear mounted tool post. It does seem unfair to reserve the superior performance of a rear tool post just for a parting tool. So why not expand this area for other operations.



2) The locking arrangement



I will try to describe how the locking arrangement works to allow both a movable and rotary adjustment to the top slide. I apologise ahead if it seems a bit longwinded, and for stating the obvious, but here goes.



Referring to Figure 1: Two parallel tee slots are shown in the cross slide. These tee slots extend the full length of the cross slide and are open at each end. Tee shaped bars fit, and can slide in the tee slots. The tee bars are rigidly attached in chordal (love that word) fashion to the annulus. The assembly of the annulus and tee bars can be moved freely along, and is guided by the tee slots. The annulus has a chamfered undercut in its lower region nearest to the cross slide. A circular recess is machined into the underside face of the lower top slide body. The shape of this recess is contoured to match the outer shape of the annulus. Thus the annulus can fit closely into the circular recess and sufficient clearance is provided above and at the cylindrical portions of the annulus so that only the chamfered portion of the annulus is in contact with the matching contoured recess in the lower slide.



It will be seen that only the left hand segment of the recess is in contact with the annulus. The right hand segment has been machined clear of the annulus. This is to allow the annulus to be inserted into the recess.



A stirrup shaped lever pivoting about its pivot pins is located in the right hand part of the lower slide. The lever can rotate about its pivots to contact or just clear the annulus. At the lower right hand side of the pivoted lever is the operating spindle. The centre section of this spindle that spans the stirrup lever is contoured eccentrically to the spindle centre line. The locking lever rotates the eccentric to move the stirrup lever into contact with the chamfered portion of the annulus.



When the lever is in the unlocked position the top slide can be rotated and moved along the axis of the tee slots in the cross slide. Moving the lever to the locked position brings the stirrup lever into contact with the annulus. This can be best seen in Figure 2. Further force from the eccentric cam will cause the annulus to slide up the left hand portion of the chamfer in the lower slide. The wedging action lifts the annulus until the tee bars restrain it by contacting the underside face of the tee slots.



This same wedging action also slides the chamfered portion of the lower slide to move down the annulus chamfer until its underside surface contacts the top surface of the cross slide. The chamfered portion of the stirrup lever is also forced down the chamfered surface of the annulus that it is in contact with. This action lifts, or tends to lift the, annulus on the right hand side, until, it is also restrained by the tee bars contacting the underside face of the tee slots. The chamfered portion of the stirrup lever is also tending to slide down the contact face of the annulus producing a downward force on the pivot pins, and thus also brings the underside of the lower slide into contact with the top surface of the cross slide. The top slide is therefore locked into position by downward contact with the cross slide and a wedging contact with the annulus on both the left and right hand sides of the top slide. The tee bars are also forced into upward contact with the tee slots. This creates a strong locking force over a large area to anchor the top slide to the cross slide.



A portion of the lower top slide fits into the centre of the annulus and makes contact with the cross slide, as do the outer regions of the lower face of the top slide. The annulus centre pad prevents, or at least greatly reduces, any distortion due to the bending moment when the top slide is in the locked condition. Such distortion could affect the smooth operation of the top slide. There also needs to be sufficient radial clearance between the centre pad and the annulus bore for assembly purposes. I made this integral with the top slide body but on reflection, it is better for this to be a separate part, fixed in position after installing the annulus.

On the version I made, the width of the lower top slide is narrower than the outer diameter of the annulus. Thus the annulus protrudes, and is visible on, each side of the body. The periphery of the annulus can therefore be marked with angular graduations to enable setting the top slide at the required angle. Numbers indicating the angle are stamped on the upper outside surface of the annulus



Swarf guards are fitted to each side of the top slide as shown in photos 6 & 8. These swarf guards make close contact with the face of the cross slide to sweep the surface of the cross slide and thereby prevent swarf entering under the top slide. The centre portion of the upper part of the swarf guard is cut away to reveal the annulus periphery while the lower part is contoured to fit closely to the protruding shape of the annulus.



Cursor graduations are marked on the lower centre section of the swarf guards that match up with the graduations marked on the annulus. Adjustment at the fixings, make it possible to calibrate the graduations on the swarf guard to match exactly the axis of the top slide.



Advantages



The top slide can be quickly moved to the position required, set at the required angle and locked to the cross slide without recourse to the spanners or keys normally required.

Full extent of the cross slide is available to position and rotate the top slide. The top slide usually rotates about a fixed location on the cross slide, this often restricts the scope of access available to the cutting tool.

There is no need to clear the area of swarf before moving or rotating the top slide to a new position. The sliding action, of the top slide over the cross slide, clears away the swarf in the new location.

The lever that locks/unlocks the top slide is located for easy access to the operator and is safely away from the cutting tool.

The top slide can be quickly moved or completely removed to give clear access for setting up or inspection operations. This safely removes sharp cutting tools away for such manual operations.

It is possible to place the top slide on the far side of the component for “reverse engineering”.

The top slide can be removed and replaced by other devices, as required, using conventional bolted arrangements or lever locking arrangements.

Avoids extensive re-adjustment by the cross slide screw to reposition the top slide.

The top slide can be moved across the extents of the cross slide to clear the area of swarf, this action also clears the tee slots.









Cross slide requirements




The cross slide requires two parallel tee slots at right angles to the lathe axis to allow the top slide to move over the full extent of the cross slide (see photo 7). The top slide could be moved in steps over tee slots parallel to the lathe axis assuming that they are equally spaced, but this would be cumbersome and have little advantage over any existing arrangement. It is also good if the tee slots are open at both ends to permit mounting and removing the top slide. This also allows for swarf removal from the tee slots.



The distance between the start of the tee slots and the cross slide feed hand wheel needs to be enough to allow the top slide tee bars to enter the tee slots, otherwise it can only be mounted / removed from the rear of the cross slide. This can be done easily on lathes that have the cross slide hand wheel fixed to the carriage, by just winding the cross slide over, but it needs to be taken into account if the hand wheel is fixed to the cross slide. The distance between the tee slots should obviously suit existing equipment that will be mounted on the cross slide and is dictated to some extent by the diameter of the annulus. I have added tee slots to my lathe and this does reduce the maximum diameter that can be swung over the cross slide. This is not a great concern for Chipmaster lathe but it could be for smaller centre height lathes. Of course a new cross slide can be made incorporating the tee slots if this is a concern. I have modified my vertical slide to suit the tee slots (see photos 20 & 21).





Top slide arrangement



I have made a drawing, Figure 4, incorporating improvements I can now see over my first attempt. In photo 8 you will see that the annulus protrudes on each side of the top slide. Swarf guards have been fitted to both sides of the protrusions. This is not entirely necessary. For a long time I only had one swarf guard on the operator side and did not have any trouble with swarf affecting the locking arrangement. The design I built is symmetrical with the annulus in the centre of the top slide base. If it is offset slightly towards the operator the annulus can be enclosed on the side opposite the operator (Lathe spindle side). This will provide better protection from swarf ingress and also increase the top slide base stiffness. However I am acutely aware that when you make things asymmetrical, you create problems, it is so easy to make it the wrong way round.



The cutting tool should be as well supported as possible, so I have arranged for the support beneath the tool to go directly down to the lathe bed with no overhang, apart from when the top slide is moved forward on its own slide. As we are all aware, the upper slide cantilever should be kept to a minimum. The overall length of the upper slide is 6.5” (165mm) for the one I made. This allows a movement of about 90mm, which is adequate. I can see no reason why this should not be increased to 200mm, which will give much longer travel up to about 5” (125mm), which will always be useful. I have also simplified the feed screw nut and made it adjustable for backlash. The long nut, for low wear, has slits in the centre portion and can be squashed to reduce (eliminate?) backlash via the two retaining hex socket cap screws. The feed screw is now located in a long bore rather than an open groove. This gives better protection for the feed screw and makes the lower slide stiffer but the downside is that the stirrup lever pivot pins cannot be removed if they are plain pins. The new location of the nut also gets in the way. To solve this I have threaded the outer part of the pivot pins to enable their removal.



The width of the top slide adjacent to the tailstock has been reduced as much as possible. Not to the extent of some good previous “L” shaped designs, but everything helps. There are no locknuts on the jib screws just because it allows a clean design, and I have not found the adjustment to change in use. There are grub screws with nyloc inserts available, I believe, which could be used. I have not provided a vee slide locking screw either. These things are personal preference and can be incorporated as desired. The screwcutting retract arrangement is also personal preference and steals most of its design from George Thomas’s design. I think it differs inasmuch that it has an extra gear and does not have an adjustable stop for internal threads. It can be moved in either direction from its stopped position for external or internal threads. There is little I can add to his guidance and design for feed dials etc. The main advantage apart from when screw cutting is to be able to position the feed dial and hand wheel higher and further away from the tailstock, I have maximised this. This also allows for a large handle and dial, which is heavier for smoother operation. It is quite possible to omit the retract part if desired as it is also possible to fit a hand wheel directly on the feed screw if preferred.
 

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