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King 1440 Lathe Speed plate

Tomc938

Tomc938

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I've started to put together that 1440 lathe I have that came as a kit.

This is the plates with the belt configuration and spindle speeds I have. Not much left legible.


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Anyone have a picture of this plate? Would be nice to be able to reproduce it.

And does anyone have a manual for this machine? I can't seem to locate one with google. And there's a lot of boxes with a lot of parts in them. Might need some clues as to how they go together.
 
Tom, it may not be any clearer than the photo copied exploded parts diagram that came with the "kit", but I have found another page that is the exploded diagram of the headstock, which I can send to you if that's helpful. I'm a bit afraid that if I scan it it will be less clear than the printed page I have.
 
@lucsimoneau I have a '98 King 14x40, slightly different model. Your (left) index chart shown in post #7 looks suspiciously like the far right one from my manual, which pertains to the (metric) 3mm threading screw. 40>127+120>40 gear arrangement. I know you were clarifying the feeds with the clearer cell values but just confirming - don't those also pertain to the metric machine?
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Here is the (IMP) 8 TPI leadscrew chart 40>127>40 gear arrangement
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mickeyf said:
Tom, it may not be any clearer than the photo copied exploded parts diagram that came with the "kit", but I have found another page that is the exploded diagram of the headstock, which I can send to you if that's helpful. I'm a bit afraid that if I scan it it will be less clear than the printed page I have.
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That would be helpful! Thanks!

I'll DM my email address to you.
 
PeterT said:
@lucsimoneau I have a '98 King 14x40, slightly different model. Your (left) index chart shown in post #7 looks suspiciously like the far right one from my manual, which pertains to the (metric) 3mm threading screw. 40>127+120>40 gear arrangement. I know you were clarifying the feeds with the clearer cell values but just confirming - don't those also pertain to the metric machine?
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Here is the (IMP) 8 TPI leadscrew chart 40>127>40 gear arrangement
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I'll have to take a look and see which I have. It's still in a box somewhere.
 
Seriously? THAT WOULD BE SO AWESOME!

I'm multi-tasking right now. Cleaning, painting and waiting for paint to dry on the lathe. During dry time I am working on putting my TouchDRO units together. And my wife has a few pokers in the fire 9for me) as well. But I'll get on that this week.

Other than dimensions, what else do you need?
 
Kind of depends on how fancy you want to get. Engraved aluminum is relatively easy - once I know the overall size I mock it up in CAD and select font sizes that scale up roughly to the original.

New from scratch. My fonts won’t be a perfect match, and my belt diagrams will be line art so might not be exactly the same. But, engraved on 1/16” aluminum with a 0.010” depth of cut they will last forever. I usually fill in the engravings with black nail polish or acrylic paint. When it fades or gets scuffed up a few minutes with acetone and a Scotchbrite pad and all the paint is gone, ready for a new coat.

Other option is engraving a photo image of the original plate, but really fiddly because I would need to do all the touchups and squaring up of the image before engraving. End result will not be as crisp as new from scratch, because it’s difficult to get all the text and lines straight.

Third option is laser engraved ABS, can get razor-sharp lines but it’s not as robust as the engraved aluminum. White lines on a black background.

A couple of samples. And it’s not 0.050 depth of cut, dyslexia strikes again!

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Those look amazing!

Couple of options: would it be possible to use the original plate for the engraving? Then I don't need new material. (it's 19.8 x 21 cm)

If not, I measured the area taken up by the speed chart. It's 15 cm wide and 9 cm high. I could then just glue it over the old backing plate. Bit beat up, but nothing that affects usability.

If you are willing to wait a bit, there might be a couple of other plates I could replace. I haven't even found them all yet, but the power/control plate is a "bit" worn as well. Whoever had it before must have cleaned it weekly with a Scotchbright pad.

I don't know if you noticed, but according to the original plate, I have the rare lathe version with a "SPANDLE". Much more durable that a spindle. Increases resale value tremendously.


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Looks like the original is painted, perfect situation to just clean off the paint and do a proper engraved panel. As long as you tell me what it’s supposed to read then I can engrave the original. Do you want the factory symbols, or real words? <Light> instead of the lightbulb graphic?

A spandle is just like a spindle, but wider.
 
whydontu said:
Looks like the original is painted, perfect situation to just clean off the paint and do a proper engraved panel. As long as you tell me what it’s supposed to read then I can engrave the original. Do you want the factory symbols, or real words? <Light> instead of the lightbulb graphic?

A spandle is just like a spindle, but wider.
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Never thought about that. I bet acetone will take the paint of like nothing.

Once I find the rest of the plates, I'll send you the information. Hopefully before I head out east for a month the middle of May.

And span and spindle does give you spandle, so you must be right!
 
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