am I missing something? do people appreciate a fine rust hued patina so much that....

[TorontoBuilder]

So I know patina is quite pleasing on old wood furniture, and some woodworkers will fume and otherwise artificially age their woodworking projects.

But the use of similar techniques for metal pieces is new to me... if this something others are familiar with? Should I take all my machines and leave them outside exposed to the elements between uses?

This dealer seems to love leaving his crap out.

He made this one so purdy he is asking 3K for it.

I'm not sure, but maybe the dangling electrical cabinet provides the aesthetic that has the guy asking an extra $500 for this one?

A smart buyer may be wise to wait until spring to buy these, and let them age even more on the seller's dime

 

[JustaDB]

Doncha know? Indoor storage is expensive!

 

[TorontoBuilder]

Doncha know? Indoor storage is expensive!

I know better than most... but it you can't afford the cost of doing business dont do business.

The seller should get off crack, because you can have expensive, or rusty but not both

 

[PeterT]

What a shame. All that corrosion for the cost of a decent tarp & 10 minutes of work. The electrics would probably be just as useful unfortunately.

 

[slow-poke]

Painful to see with perfectly usable machines.


Rust can look great on a Rat-Rod

 

[TorontoBuilder]

Painful to see with perfectly usable machines.


Rust can look great on a Rat-Rod
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IF I felt myself capable of getting a rat rod finish achieved on my lathe, while sufficiently protecting it for installation in my unheated garage, then I'd by much more likely to attempt it.

another issue is I have arthritis so bad that any repetitive sanding tasks are a non starter, or need to be done over a couple weeks with many breaks between sessions. The I run the risk of fresh rust setting in.

 

[whydontu]

I wonder if the DRO is IP68 rated?

 

[Kernel Sanders]

Brings to mind old school engine block 'seasoning' lol

 

[djberta]

I have never understood the idea of leaving precision equipment outside. Worse is when they want top dollar for them. It seems to be very common. Working in industrial sections all over Alberta and I can not even begin to guess how many lathes, mills, press breaks, drill press and band saws I have seen along the back fences of yards. In Edmonton by my one employer they have what looks like 2 large size press brakes, just sitting along the fence. One place had a large iron worker. Bone yards are easier to deal with then trying to sell stuff. Selling it would mean the yard hand would actually have to get out of his loader.

 

[Ironman]

I know better than most... but it you can't afford the cost of doing business dont do business.

The seller should get off crack, because you can have expensive, or rusty but not both

Rusty? That's a tan, people pay good money to get tanned

 

[Ironman]

I have never understood the idea of leaving precision equipment outside. Worse is when they want top dollar for them. It seems to be very common. Working in industrial sections all over Alberta and I can not even begin to guess how many lathes, mills, press breaks, drill press and band saws I have seen along the back fences of yards. In Edmonton by my one employer they have what looks like 2 large size press brakes, just sitting along the fence. One place had a large iron worker. Bone yards are easier to deal with then trying to sell stuff. Selling it would mean the yard hand would actually have to get out of his loader.

Several pieces of my shop equipment has come from your area, Crossfield. I got a 100 ton Enerpac press and a 40" press brake. I asked how long they had sat there and the foreman said, I've been here 30 years and they were here when I started.

I paid scrap price and rebuilt them.

 

[Mcgyver]

I have never understood the idea of leaving precision equipment outside.

It's not right, but I can see it ..... it's the psycological half way house toward machine disposition.

The hoarder mentality of not being able to let go..... you should scrap it or sell for whatever you can get. But there's baggage in the way of making either happen. It is a less painful little step of clearing the space you need without taking the entire mental write off at once.

For example, I have a 10' 125 ton Japanese high end brake press in excellent shape - except the brain/plc/whatever was ripped out of it so its not operational. It's been taking up space for 5 years. Can't find anyone to fix it, don't have time to try ourselves. My more intelligent managers have been all over me to scrap it, "It's a boat anchor, we need the space". My brain clings to what it could be and makes up excuses. Fortunately it hasn't been outside, but it wouldn't make any difference to the outcome if it had ..... it's getting scrapped. If it had been outside, the plant would have had the space for years, and it would easier to scrap it if its already started to desinigrate.

 

[Tom O]

This is my Albatross it won’t fire up

 

[TorontoBuilder]

It's not right, but I can see it ..... it's the psycological half way house toward machine disposition.

The hoarder mentality of not being able to let go..... you should scrap it or sell for whatever you can get. But there's baggage in the way of making either happen. It is a less painful little step of clearing the space you need without taking the entire mental write off at once.

For example, I have a 10' 125 ton Japanese high end brake press in excellent shape - except the brain/plc/whatever was ripped out of it so its not operational. It's been taking up space for 5 years. Can't find anyone to fix it, don't have time to try ourselves. My more intelligent managers have been all over me to scrap it, "It's a boat anchor, we need the space". My brain clings to what it could be and makes up excuses. Fortunately it hasn't been outside, but it wouldn't make any difference to the outcome if it had ..... it's getting scrapped. If it had been outside, the plant would have had the space for years, and it would easier to scrap it if its already started to desinigrate.

I can see small businesses and shops with this mentality. Hell I have to fight it every day, I just can't give up certain tools even when I have better.
But when it is a machine tool dealer it is reprehensible. When they're asking huge inflated prices for their rusting scrap, well I can't say here what their punishment should be here

 

[canuck750]

I hate the word ‘patina’, let’s be honest; it means rusted, dented, scratched and basically not looked after.
I have been in the vintage motorcycle hobby for decades and about ten years ago the description of ‘patina’ became very common. So much worn out, broken, rusted crap has flooded the vintage bike world. I understand true ‘survivors’ have historic value, not the same thing though in most cases.