Myford ML7

[neer724]

Just saw this on Kijiji - $1950

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-detail...paign=Kijiji_Search_Alerts&utm_term=572749109

 

[YYCHM]

Toronto, Ontario

 

[Tom Kitta]

cheap, 1500 cad more in AB

 

[trlvn]

The ML7 is a change-gear lathe and the pictures don't show any gears. If they are lost, that's a major penalty. There should be 10 plus 2X 21T for metric threading.

BTW, the ML7 also had babbit bearings and is apparently supposed to be run no faster than 1,000 rpm. Originally designed for a 1/3 HP motor.

This particular machine seems to have seen use as a wood lathe. I'd be concerned about damage to the ways, the bearings or other problems.

I certainly wouldn't pay $1,950 for it but there sure seem to be people that can't slap their money down fast enough for a "Myford".

Craig

 

[trlvn]

but if anyone here does buy the lathe and doesn't want the wood chisels I may be interested.

Hard to see clearly but only 2 have the classic long handle of a lathe tool. It appears the rest are likely carving tools. Carving tools generally have a thinner cross-section of steel than a real lathe tool. If the woodturner has a heavy catch, a carving chisel can bend or break. Carving tool handles with the necked-down section above the ferrule are also particularly prone to breaking.

Craig
(Who doesn't do woodcarving but has an embarrassing-but-insufficient number of carving tools by one particular maker--James Howarth of Sheffield.)

 

[Tom Kitta]

The ML7 is a change-gear lathe and the pictures don't show any gears. If they are lost, that's a major penalty. There should be 10 plus 2X 21T for metric threading.

BTW, the ML7 also had babbit bearings and is apparently supposed to be run no faster than 1,000 rpm. Originally designed for a 1/3 HP motor.

This particular machine seems to have seen use as a wood lathe. I'd be concerned about damage to the ways, the bearings or other problems.

I certainly wouldn't pay $1,950 for it but there sure seem to be people that can't slap their money down fast enough for a "Myford".

Craig

Agreed it is missing QCGB and thus needs change gears. There could be some other issues with it. But value of some accessories should offset the value of a new change gear set - besides that set could simply not be on picture. I recon it could be about $500.

It is the most basic ML7, no clutch, no QCTB etc. Mine had 1/2 hp motor. Still at 2k it is a great price if there is no major wear or destruction of ways etc.

I sold ML7B in AB few months back for 3500 and I was told it sold instantly b/c it was under valued. Should have asked 4000.

 

[Dan Dubeau]

Change gears are stacked in a tin just above the 4 jaw. Looks to be a decent lathe at a not bad, but not great price (I'd haggle down a lot if I were interested. I am not). Price is always a starting point IMO.

As for wood turning, I've turned on my myford before when I needed to hold something in the chuck (I don't have a chuck for my delta midi wood lathe). Just clean up after yourself, no harm no foul. Having a vacuum handy sure helps when sanding, but a little bit of wood chips in the chip pan once in a while isn't a bad thing as it forces your hand to give it a proper clean up and to wipe down and oil everything afterwards..... Something I'd wager most don't do often enough, or am I just speaking for myself?

I'm also pretty sure that might be a factory myford wood turning rest on there, but can't quite tell from the pictures. Ya gotta remember the Myford isn't a high quality toolroom lathe (compared to todays offering in the same category it could pass for one though), it's a gentalmans/model engineers hobby lathe, and is to be used as such. Myford made all kinds of attachments to do so. Including a wood turning chisel rest. High quality lathe capable of fine work, sure, but it ain't no Hardinge (or insert your favourite toolroom lathe here).

 

[Dan Dubeau]

Agreed it is missing QCGB and thus needs change gears. There could be some other issues with it. But value of some accessories should offset the value of a new change gear set - besides that set could simply not be on picture. I recon it could be about $500.

It is the most basic ML7, no clutch, no QCTB etc. Mine had 1/2 hp motor. Still at 2k it is a great price if there is no major wear or destruction of ways etc.

I sold ML7B in AB few months back for 3500 and I was told it sold instantly b/c it was under valued. Should have asked 4000.

At those prices, You're making me want to pack my myford in the van when we head out to AB this summer . Stick a sign on the back window "myford super 7 inside" with a phone #.

 

[Tom Kitta]

At those prices, You're making me want to pack my myford in the van when we head out to AB this summer . Stick a sign on the back window "myford super 7 inside" with a phone #.

Super 7? We are talking well over 5000 unless it was run over by a truck - depending on truck damage it can still be 3500.

If change gears are included and rest of tooling, AB price is around 3500 would sell within days.

 

[Tecnico]

Super 7? We are talking well over 5000 unless it was run over by a truck - depending on truck damage it can still be 3500.

Tom. you have piqued my curiosity, now I'm wondering what my Super 7 is worth - not that I have any plans of selling it any time soon.

By good fortune a few years ago I scooped up an '88 vintage S7 time capsule that had never been run (!) and that might have a hundred hours on it by now. It came with 3 jaw, 4 jaw, magnetic and Grip True chucks, 3 face plates & dogs, STD & QC tool posts, taper turning attachment, vertical/angle (milling) slide, milling vise, a collet set in a nice wooden box, slit saw, centres, fixed & traveling rests, vee blocks, angle plates etc. etc. and.....even a wood turning rest! Most of the accessories are still stuck to the wrapping paper in Cosmoline. I have the original invoice that came to almost 4k GBP!

I have to say that for a small lathe, and within those limitations it's a nice piece of equipment, built with a certain attention to detail although the Whitworth fasteners were a bit of a surprise out of left field. I can see why it would be popular for the "model engineer". It also lives up to the stereotype of its national lineage, it leaks oil, right through the seals in the base tray!

I've been able to do more with it than I had originally imagined so it has served me well so far. Thanks to the knowledge base of the UK users I picked up some well chosen change gears (Boston Gear) and I have even managed to cut some metric threads with the imperial QC gear box. The UK guys really have all the angles figured out for these machines.

Well, out of curiosity, what am I sitting on here?

Thanks, Tecnico

P.S. photos are in my intro post.

 

[Dan Dubeau]

Super 7? We are talking well over 5000 unless it was run over by a truck - depending on truck damage it can still be 3500.
If change gears are included and rest of tooling, AB price is around 3500 would sell within days.

Super 7, 2nd owner. 3jaw, 4 jaw, faceplate, OXA quick change with a bunch of holders (commercial and shop made), all the change gears (minus the 21t for metric), steady rest, and a bunch of tailstock tooling and both live/dead centers. It's not a museum piece though, and it sits on a shop built stand the previous owner made.

Sounds like I could pay for the whole vacation lol.

As much as I'm not really a big fan of it, it's earned it's keep, and will probably always have a home in my shop. Unless I scored a good deal on an hlv-h to take it's place. A guy can dream. In the last rearrangement I did move it closest to the garage door.....

 

[Tom Kitta]

Tom. you have piqued my curiosity, now I'm wondering what my Super 7 is worth - not that I have any plans of selling it any time soon.

By good fortune a few years ago I scooped up an '88 vintage S7 time capsule that had never been run (!) and that might have a hundred hours on it by now. It came with 3 jaw, 4 jaw, magnetic and Grip True chucks, 3 face plates & dogs, STD & QC tool posts, taper turning attachment, vertical/angle (milling) slide, milling vise, a collet set in a nice wooden box, slit saw, centres, fixed & traveling rests, vee blocks, angle plates etc. etc. and.....even a wood turning rest! Most of the accessories are still stuck to the wrapping paper in Cosmoline. I have the original invoice that came to almost 4k GBP!

I have to say that for a small lathe, and within those limitations it's a nice piece of equipment, built with a certain attention to detail although the Whitworth fasteners were a bit of a surprise out of left field. I can see why it would be popular for the "model engineer". It also lives up to the stereotype of its national lineage, it leaks oil, right through the seals in the base tray!

I've been able to do more with it than I had originally imagined so it has served me well so far. Thanks to the knowledge base of the UK users I picked up some well chosen change gears (Boston Gear) and I have even managed to cut some metric threads with the imperial QC gear box. The UK guys really have all the angles figured out for these machines.

Well, out of curiosity, what am I sitting on here?

Thanks, Tecnico

P.S. photos are in my intro post.

I would say around 10,000 CAD+, especially in Alberta. If it was still new, in box, never used... well... even more. There could be a problem finding a buyer at 10k, its not little money, but I would not be shocked if when listed all carefully, pointing out where you got it, all accessories etc. You would sell for 10k within a week.

I would also not be shocked if someone here come up and said its more then 10k. But I do not think its more then 15k.

Bare bones, almost like new Super 7 is easily 6k+. So accessories for it you listed (lots) should be 4k.

 

[Tom Kitta]

Super 7, 2nd owner. 3jaw, 4 jaw, faceplate, OXA quick change with a bunch of holders (commercial and shop made), all the change gears (minus the 21t for metric), steady rest, and a bunch of tailstock tooling and both live/dead centers. It's not a museum piece though, and it sits on a shop built stand the previous owner made.

Sounds like I could pay for the whole vacation lol.

As much as I'm not really a big fan of it, it's earned it's keep, and will probably always have a home in my shop. Unless I scored a good deal on an hlv-h to take it's place. A guy can dream. In the last rearrangement I did move it closest to the garage door.....

You sure could - depending where you wanted to go and how many people.

 

[Tecnico]

I would say around 10,000 CAD+, especially in Alberta. If it was still new, in box, never used... well... even more. There could be a problem finding a buyer at 10k, its not little money, but I would not be shocked if when listed all carefully, pointing out where you got it, all accessories etc. You would sell for 10k within a week.

I would also not be shocked if someone here come up and said its more then 10k. But I do not think its more then 15k.

Bare bones, almost like new Super 7 is easily 6k+. So accessories for it you listed (lots) should be 4k.

Interesting! I didn't think the Myford was as well appreciated here as in the UK.

Thanks

Tecnico

 

[DPittman]

Man I got to think if I had a Myford worth that sort of money I'd sell it and put the money straight into a bigger more modern lathe.