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Elliott Sturishape Shaper

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Hi Martin, He is definitely a clueless dealer/listing agent. Still has all the machines listed months ago. Same machine from FB marketplace $7000
 

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Very modern looking. Like to see how the mechanism inside looks. At a price of 7k a guy might just be better off buying a new one out of Asia.
 
Hi Martin, He is definitely a clueless dealer/listing agent. Still has all the machines listed months ago. Same machine from FB marketplace $7000
This is the guy who listed chipmaster lathe for 8k. He has convinced a few machine shops that he is a knowledgeable broker who can get them top dollar. Those shops who use him deserve it for not doing due diligence
 
This is the guy who listed chipmaster lathe for 8k. He has convinced a few machine shops that he is a knowledgeable broker who can get them top dollar. Those shops who use him deserve it for not doing due diligence
He might not have any connection to the machines at all. I used to find my airplanes listed for sale all the time on legit brokers sites but they would never show the registration marks, just hoping to get a bite then claim a finders fee for connecting parties.
 
This is the guy who listed chipmaster lathe for 8k. He has convinced a few machine shops that he is a knowledgeable broker who can get them top dollar. Those shops who use him deserve it for not doing due diligence
I’m always a bit stumped to see machines that have been listed by the owner for months turn up listed by a dealer.

The machine clearly didn’t sell at the original price. How likely is it to sell with an additional broker’s fee in the price?

Maybe if the owner is willing to let it go for a much lower price, but it sounds like they’re often the one storing the machine in the meantime…?
 
I’m always a bit stumped to see machines that have been listed by the owner for months turn up listed by a dealer.

The machine clearly didn’t sell at the original price. How likely is it to sell with an additional broker’s fee in the price?

Maybe if the owner is willing to let it go for a much lower price, but it sounds like they’re often the one storing the machine in the meantime…?
this listing hasn't changed in months, this is not a new dealer. I also exchanged a bunch of messages with him that allowed me to determine how he operates.

I asked for more pics and he said he couldn't provide them for a while because it was at his clients shop.

IMO this guy has a job where he sees many machine shop owners, and finds they have older unused machines that they no longer use and leave sitting because disposal is too big a hassle. He then says I can broker a sale with my many contacts, then he lists the stuff at outrageous prices. He has zero overhead and doesn't care it it takes two years to find a sucker desperate enough to enter negotiations.

He listed the chipmaster lathe at an outrageous price, I had back and forth conversation and discussed the true value, then he turned right around and posted the same machine on facebook marketplace at 8K. So I sent him a DM on facebook and said dude what's up with this price, I thought we were in negotiations and why did you mark up the price a grand more. His reply was that it was to leave him more room to negotiate.

This told me that another factor in how he gets clients is to promise to sell at a laughably over priced value. I would have purchased that chipmaster and paid higher than what I thought the market rate was given the condition and features of that lathe, but it was clear that he could not negotiate a fair value in good faith.

As a hobby metal worker I'd not ever bother to consider any machine listed by this fellow unless you literally won the lotto and wanted to stupidly toss money around
 
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