machinerys handbook online?

[Janger]

Anybody using this electronic Machinerys Handbook?

https://www.vitalsource.com/en-ca/p...MIw_2U_I_g7wIVyJ-zCh1Ulg11EAYYASABEgKZdvD_BwE

It says it does not expire but only includes 1 year of "bookshelf". After reading here and there I don't know what that means.

How does it compare to the CDROM machinerys handbook?

The PDF version floating around seems really awkward and unwieldly - 1000+ page books are like that.

 

[YYCHM]

I wonder if that means it's available to read on-line for a year, but the downloaded never expires?

 

[DavidR8]

Interesting, not a bad option as I actually don't like the format of the standard Machinery's Handbook.
I think the download never expires according to the site.
@Janger I think the "1 year of Bookshelf" means that with the purchase you also get one year of access to other bookshelf titles perhaps?

 

[Tom O]

It says on there “ follow along while bookshelf reads to you “ so I’d say that for a year it is a audio book too.

 

[Brent H]

@Janger : I have the Machinist handbook in PDF but for general shop stuff I have a copy of this book: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Machinists-...635229&hash=item4d74873541:g:uaEAAOSwOyJX6VNP

I have an older edition I received when we started taking the shop classes for the Coast Guard Engineering. Great reference for "most" applications. The deeper knitty gritty I will go to the Hand Book. My PDF version is all book marked so you can click through it a bit easier to find information.

That Machinists' Ready Reference is stupid expensive on Amazon. seems a bit high priced everywhere these days

 

[Janger]

I'm always shocked when I ask a question of a company and they actually answer. Here are the details on this question.

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[gerritv]

Why pay anything at all when the 29th edition (2012) is online at Machinery's Handbook 29th Edition : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
I would be suspicious of VitalSource having a license to publish that book.
Gerrit

 

[gerritv]

Here is your first hint that VitalSource is not quite what it seems: Copyright Infringement Notice – VitalSource Support By the time you pay their license fee, yo might as well buy a used copy. You only get a license "We license, but do not sell, to you any Product you download. We or the licensors of the Licensed Content remain the owners of all Products at all times."

 

[Canadium]

Why pay anything at all when the 29th edition (2012) is online at Machinery's Handbook 29th Edition : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Gerrit

Thats amazing! I had no idea this was downloadable for free. Checked the file with my virus checker. No red flags found. Thanks for the link!

 

[Janger]

Bbb.org gives vital source an F

 

[YYCHM]

Bbb.org gives vital source an F

So, what was the point of this thread? Lesson Learned?

 

[Dabbler]

I've downloaded multiple from archive.org.

 

[Janger]

So, what was the point of this thread? Lesson Learned?

I guess?

I find archive.org hard to understand. The way back time machine makes sense to me - just preserving already public web sites at a point in time. But books? Somebody created a book and spent time and money expecting a return on investment. Just photocopying a book instead of paying for it we all know is wrong. So how is this any different? Out of print books ok maybe. But machinerys handbook V29 for free?

 

[Janger]

I've followed up with Industrial Press and got a few answers. They have an electronic version they will sell to individuals and if we had 5-15 members interested we could get the latest V31 book (4000+ pages!) online for $100USD. That's about $20 off. The print book in Canada is $160 at Amazon for the large print edition. The electronic version works on whatever device you have with a native app or with a web browser. You don't have to be connected online for it to work and you can install on multiple devices you personally own. It also has all the crosslinks working so you can click on a table of contents item and it hyperlinks you to the right page. You can search and print too. It includes some other material - the handbook guide - too. https://ebooks.industrialpress.com/product/machinerys-handbook-digital-edition-31st this is the full description. Would there be enough interest for people to want to get a group purchase going?



I'd almost want the electronic one so I can search and the paper one to use as a reference.

 

[Dabbler]

I bought my paper edition used, for around 60 bucks (it was part of a larger deal). I think the going price for a used paper copy was 80$ last time I checked - no need to worry about the edition number, unless you are into cutting edge CNC.

I don't own one but the Handbook guide is very helpful.

 

[John Conroy]

I have a very nice example of the 13th edition book published in 1946 as well as a PDF of the 29th edition. I use the PDF version more as I can do keyword searches on it but the book is nice to use. It just feels good in my hands for some reason.

 

[Tom O]

Any idea how much memory that 4000 pages would eat up? I’d also be interested in the comparison of the machinist calculators out that could cover most of our needs.
could one be put in the paid member section? Just a thought.

 

[John Conroy]

The PDF I have is 24.8 MB

 

[kevin.decelles]

My hardcover is the 30 version, I bought it and the Machinist Calc Pro 2 as a combo from Amazon for $200 back in 2017. Just checked..... now 460?!

The calculator is pretty damn handy, speeds/feeds and threading info (major/minor diameter) built in. Saves me walking to get the Handbook. I have recently acquired a PDF of the same version of book I bought..... figured I paid for the paper one so my conscience is clean.

 

[DPittman]

Just as a comparison, my 30th edition hard cover I bought new in 2019 was $145. It seems to me I was watching the price back then and it jumped all over. I believe that was on Amazon.